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Jerry VanHorn 11-19-2017 12:52 PM

My favorite configuration...16 "O" frames..
 
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GH 16.. 28 "Damascus.....16 Hammer..28"...lightening cuts.....VH 16..26"..

calvin humburg 11-19-2017 01:30 PM

Nice, gotta like those 16's.

Robin Lewis 11-19-2017 02:20 PM

Nice picture, my favorite by far too!

Dean Romig 11-19-2017 05:03 PM

I've got a bunch of 16 ga. O-frames too.
Aside from 28 gauge guns they are the best carrying guns Parker made... IMHO






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James J. Roberts 11-19-2017 06:27 PM

I have a Parker Trojan in 16 ga. and it fit me just right it's right on target when I swing it on a bird. J.J.

Brett Hoop 11-19-2017 06:53 PM

My wife says I have a "problem"! So I went to the Southern and Hausmann's for counseling. "Didn't really help" she says! I'll have to go back and try again.

Todd Poer 11-19-2017 07:22 PM

This has probably been discussed on here a few times. I think probably one of the most famous 16 gauge shooters ever preferred a Parker. I read an article about her shooting with that Parker years ago. Also saw an article about her gun selling at close to $300k and it also referenced information in article that this organization provided on the gun from factory records. Seems gun was restocked 2 times in just a few year period.

Ya know I always wondered about these expert shots and this stuff about gunfitting. Got to see Tom Knapp once. That guy, like what I understand about Annie Oakley, could shoot just about anything well, no matter how it fit them.

That is a good looking bevy of 16 gauges. As a matter of fact I think the hammer 16 GH is same grade gun she had.

Russ Jackson 11-19-2017 08:10 PM

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Here's a bit of a Rare Pair ,A 16 Ga. 32" Twist and a 22" Twist , both letter accordingly ! The 22"Barreled gun is a joy to carry ! The 32" is a 1 Frame and the 22" is an O Frame !

Brian Dudley 11-19-2017 08:14 PM

Every time I have shot a 0 frame 16g (with RSTs), I am always surprised at how low the felt recoil is. I always think it will be more.

Todd Poer 11-19-2017 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 228836)
Every time I have shot a 0 frame 16g (with RSTs), I am always surprised at how low the felt recoil is. I always think it will be more.

What is the difference in weight from say a similar barreled 16 gauge between a 1 or 0 Frame.

davidboyles 11-19-2017 09:34 PM

GH 16 0 frame
 
You guys are making me look bad advertising my "0" 16 for sale. Am I going to be tarred and feathered!! Just acquired a 28 VHE that has stolen my heart so someone needs to go. Funny I have other 16 ga Parkers I just seem to shoot a lot more than this Damascus GH 16.

Dean Romig 11-19-2017 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Poer (Post 228851)
What is the difference in weight from say a similar barreled 16 gauge between a 1 or 0 Frame.


Odd as it may seem Todd, there are some 16 0-frames that outweigh some 16 1-frames and some 16 1-frames that are much lighter than a lot of 16 0-frames.
I had a Trojan 16 on the 1-frame with 26" barrels that was unbelievably light and agile. I wound up selling it to my brother-in-law because he borrowed it for a season and kept it for the next two seasons so I told him I'd sell it to him. Took me three years to get the money.

"Never a borrower nor a lender be.".....especially when family is involved.



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Jerry VanHorn 11-20-2017 09:16 AM

I have a case of RST 16s..3/4 oz. on the way..and a pair of 16 ga. inserts for my 10 ga. lifter. I have 2 other 16 VH O frames. One is a 26" straight grip that Brad B. should have the color done on this month..and another VH ..28" pistol grip. That takes care of the kids and grandkids !..The 16 hammer is in a restored 2 gun motor case..with my LC Smith 16 hammer.. Now..if I just had a Woodie ....

Michael Moffa 11-20-2017 11:57 PM

One year I bought all the 16's Ivory Beads brought to Vegas. Got bit hard that weekend.

allen newell 01-29-2023 07:23 PM

Growing up in New England, the 16 ga was the grouse gun.. I still have my grandfathers 16 vh. I don't shoot it that often but when I do it brings back wonderful memories of grouse hunting with my dad. Great gun.

CraigThompson 01-29-2023 08:19 PM

I’ve had two top lever hammer 16’s one an 0 the other a 1 both were 30” and I liked the 1 frame more . I also had a VH 16 26” 0 frame that was poison on dove/quail but it’s in GA now . Still have VH 1 frame 28” and 30” which are both nice . My only other Parker 16 is a DH 32” 2 frame and I like and shoot that one the best .

Keith Doty 01-29-2023 08:44 PM

Shot my 26" "0" 16 this weekend at quail. Only thing better than an 0 frame 16 is a box of puppies!

Chris Pope 01-30-2023 08:22 AM

I shot my 16 "O" frame this weekend also!...and I missed. Dog wasn't pleased but we had fun. She certainly is a sweet shooter.

Andrew Sacco 01-30-2023 08:49 AM

My bucket list includes an O frame 16 ejector gun 26" barrels for grouse (yes, short barrels). I don't care if the wood is rotted off, I would have a stock made to my dimensions. I have two O frame 16's, and they are just the bomb. My 28g Repro was the worst Parker I ever owned so I sold that and am going to a 28g O/U instead if I want that gauge. I am pretty wedded to 16g with hand loaded 16's in RST hulls 1 oz #8 and Longshot powder. When the kids are out of college maybe that 28g Parker will show up

Garry L Gordon 01-30-2023 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco (Post 381027)
My bucket list includes an O frame 16 ejector gun 26" barrels for grouse (yes, short barrels). I don't care if the wood is rotted off, I would have a stock made to my dimensions. I have two O frame 16's, and they are just the bomb. My 28g Repro was the worst Parker I ever owned so I sold that and am going to a 28g O/U instead if I want that gauge. I am pretty wedded to 16g with hand loaded 16's in RST hulls 1 oz #8 and Longshot powder. When the kids are out of college maybe that 28g Parker will show up

Andy, if you wait that long and continue to shoot a 28 O/U, your eyes will have moved, one over the other, by the time your kids are out of college. If God had intended us to shoot an O/U, he’d have made our eyes that way. (BTW, he shoots a straight/splinter, two trigger Parker with 26” barrels…)

Andrew Sacco 01-30-2023 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon (Post 381030)
Andy, if you wait that long and continue to shoot a 28 O/U, your eyes will have moved, one over the other, by the time your kids are out of college. If God had intended us to shoot an O/U, he’d have made our eyes that way. (BTW, he shoots a straight/splinter, two trigger Parker with 26” barrels…)

I've been told that Garry but my eyes are still horizontal!! I have two Italian guns coming, both O/U but that doesn't take anything away from my love of Parkers. In my mind, whether they are up and down or side to side you just cannot have too many. A friend of mine a few weeks ago said, "You should just buy one gun and shoot it, you don't need a bunch." Now what the hell kind of crappy advice is that!!!

Dan Steingraber 01-30-2023 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco (Post 381034)
I've been told that Garry but my eyes are still horizontal!! I have two Italian guns coming, both O/U but that doesn't take anything away from my love of Parkers. In my mind, whether they are up and down or side to side you just cannot have too many. A friend of mine a few weeks ago said, "You should just buy one gun and shoot it, you don't need a bunch." Now what the hell kind of crappy advice is that!!!

Andy, Nobody needs that kind of negativity in their life. Haha. I’ve got a CH 0 frame with Damascus 26” barrels and it’s a joy to carry in the grouse woods. I carried a VHE 16 with 28” barrels for quail in Kansas this year and loved it. As I was typing this I realized it was the gun I shot with you at Haussman’s last year.

Keith Doty 01-30-2023 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco (Post 381034)
I've been told that Garry but my eyes are still horizontal!! I have two Italian guns coming, both O/U but that doesn't take anything away from my love of Parkers. In my mind, whether they are up and down or side to side you just cannot have too many. A friend of mine a few weeks ago said, "You should just buy one gun and shoot it, you don't need a bunch." Now what the hell kind of crappy advice is that!!!

That was spoken by a man that probably shoots an 1100. Poor advise indeed!

Andrew Sacco 01-30-2023 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Doty (Post 381041)
That was spoken by a man that probably shoots an 1100. Poor advise indeed!

OMG he shoots an 1100! Hahahahah :rotf::rotf::rotf:

Harold Lee Pickens 01-30-2023 01:04 PM

Hope I didnt forget any:
VH 16 1 frame 28"
GH 16 O frame 27" damascus
DHE 16 O frame 26" steel
Grade O 16 ga hammer gun w/ 26" Twist
PH 16 O 16 w/ 28" Twist
Lefever G 16 28" damascus
Ithaca 4E 28"
Fox A 16 28"
Fox SW 16 26.5 (cut)
Fox SW Deluxe 16 28"
German Hammer 16 30" cyl/F sub 6 lbs
Fair Rizzini 600 16 ga OU w/ 28"& choke tubes
I shot nothing but 16's for years, but now really liking 20's and my little Dickinson 30" 28

Phil Yearout 01-30-2023 01:18 PM

The gun that started it, my father's Savage 775a in 16ga along with my first double gun, a Stevens 5100 in 16ga, and a Fox Sterlingworth Ejector and Parker Trojan, both in 16ga. Not shown: Fox A Grade in 16ga. I like 16's...

https://i.imgur.com/iHevVfql.jpg

Mills Morrison 01-30-2023 01:29 PM

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0 frame 16 Parkers are my current favorite too. I have several and just want more. I have some 1 frames that are quite nice too.

Keith Doty 01-30-2023 01:51 PM

16s are kinda like potato chips......I shouldn't have bought that first one! Have several and am always looking for another. Especially 0 frames.

Andrew Sacco 01-30-2023 01:55 PM

I have a nice condition Trojan 16 with 26" barrels which handles just dandy and fits me nice. Only problem with it for grouse is that it has two German chokes, both of them being GuttenTight I don't want to have them opened up, but I'm surprised how this basic Parker is one of my very favorites. I shot one woodcock with it, I had a pair of wings come down from the heavens.

Mills Morrison 01-30-2023 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco (Post 381059)
I have a nice condition Trojan 16 with 26" barrels which handles just dandy and fits me nice. Only problem with it for grouse is that it has two German chokes, both of them being GuttenTight I don't want to have them opened up, but I'm surprised how this basic Parker is one of my very favorites. I shot one woodcock with it, I had a pair of wings come down from the heavens.

For tight chokes, I just let the birds get a bit further. If that doesn't work, buy another gun and use the current one for something else.

Matt Buckley 01-30-2023 02:06 PM

Just for comparison from my collection:
16 Grade 2 hammer 30" barrels O Frame: 6lbs 15oz
16 VH 26" barrels 1 Frame: 6lbs 13oz
16 Trojan 28" barrel 1 Frame: 6lbs 5oz

Friends 16 VH 26"barrels O Frame: 5lbs 14oz

Bill Murphy 01-30-2023 02:18 PM

Andy, when pheasant hunting north of Westminster, Maryland with a friend who only had a single barrel 37 Winchester, we flushed a woodcock in a wooded area. My friend duplicated your feat of shooting a woodcock completely out of his wings. We were high school buddies, but he was not into bird guns like I was. We went to college together and he left early to become a Ranger and to Viet Nam with a 75th Infantry unit. I left a year later, also for a two year Army hitch of a less heroic character. We had some great pack trips in western Maryland, but he found his outdoor life as a Park Ranger Superintendent in Wyoming and I stayed in Maryland and collected Parkers.

edgarspencer 01-30-2023 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 228860)
there are some 16 0-frames that outweigh some 16 1-frames and some 16 1-frames that are much lighter than a lot of 16 0-frames.

:confused:

Keith Doty 01-30-2023 03:39 PM

Easy fix for the tight chokes without boring them out is some spreader loads. They work well. I have used then on a 20 ga. mod x full 21 of mine for quail. Not perfect but certainly workable.

Andrew Sacco 01-31-2023 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 381061)
For tight chokes, I just let the birds get a bit further. If that doesn't work, buy another gun and use the current one for something else.

That's great in theory, but when a grouse or woodcock gives you .2 seconds in snot thick cover there is no such thing as letting them get further out. I do that with chukar, quail and ditch chickens

Andrew Sacco 01-31-2023 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith Doty (Post 381073)
Easy fix for the tight chokes without boring them out is some spreader loads. They work well. I have used then on a 20 ga. mod x full 21 of mine for quail. Not perfect but certainly workable.

I did some with polywad inserts and they do help, but I enjoy roll crimping shells as much as I enjoy flossing my teeth. ADHD I think...

Dan Steingraber 01-31-2023 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco (Post 381125)
That's great in theory, but when a grouse or woodcock gives you .2 seconds in snot thick cover there is no such thing as letting them get further out. I do that with chukar, quail and ditch chickens


:rotf::rotf:That's exactly what I was thinkink Andy. When I read Mills' response I thought "We need to take Mills grouse hunting. In the words of my Dear friend Craig Doherty after I failed to get off a shot on 3 straight grouse flushes "Shoot the f**** tree Dan" :rotf::rotf:

Edit by John D: Could you please watch the language? This isn't Reddit - it is a gun collectors forum...

Andrew Sacco 01-31-2023 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Steingraber (Post 381128)
:rotf::rotf:That's exactly what I was thinkink Andy. When I read Mills' response I thought "We need to take Mills grouse hunting. In the words of my Dear friend Craig Doherty after I failed to get off a shot on 3 straight grouse flushes "Shoot the f**** tree Dan" :rotf::rotf:

I didn't want to insult him, but yeah, we need to take him out! I took a friend who is a clay target shooter grouse hunting for the first time. After about ten miles and HEARING three birds, he said, "Let me get this straight, you do this s*** for fun???" :bowdown:

Edit by John D: Could you please watch the language? This isn't Reddit - it is a gun collectors forum...

Harold Lee Pickens 01-31-2023 10:25 AM

Agree with Andy and Dan. With grouse hunting, its like the wedding vow, only its "shoot now or forever hold your peace". The sound of the grouse flushing galvanizes me into action. Unfortunately, that often translates into my shooting on game lands/released pheasants, I shoot too soon. My buddy Terry says to himself "My what a pretty bird" before he shoots , I doubt I get out "my" before I shoot. Wild pheasants don't dally around and require quick action.
On sporting clays, however, I wish I could shoot sooner , I think it would help my scores. Those clay targets move much faster than a game bird.

Andrew Sacco 01-31-2023 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Harold Lee Pickens (Post 381134)
Agree with Andy and Dan. With grouse hunting, its like the wedding vow, only its "shoot now or forever hold your peace". The sound of the grouse flushing galvanizes me into action. Unfortunately, that often translates into my shooting on game lands/released pheasants, I shoot too soon. My buddy Terry says to himself "My what a pretty bird" before he shoots , I doubt I get out "my" before I shoot. Wild pheasants don't dally around and require quick action.
On sporting clays, however, I wish I could shoot sooner , I think it would help my scores. Those clay targets move much faster than a game bird.

Probably my favorite thing in all of the sporting world is that thunderous launch and the way they careen through the trees. Such a magnificent bird. I think that's why Parkers are so cool, there's so little action anymore that carrying a gun you appreciate and love is a reward in itself. Like a bamboo fly rod I guess. By my estimation my last 4 pounds of grouse flesh cost about $8,000 per pound after guns, gas, dogs, accessories and I have zero regrets.


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