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Brian Hornacek 10-12-2017 11:57 PM

Parker brass casings or hulls
 
Can someone give me a quick primer on Parker Bros. brass casings and the value of such? I have not seen much trade and I may have a chance to buy a few. The gentleman has a few 10 gauge and one 12 gauge.

Thanks in advance.

Jeff Kuss 10-13-2017 07:46 AM

Brian,
If they are 10A and 12A, $20 to $30 apiece.
Jeff

Mark Landskov 10-13-2017 08:40 AM

If you are looking for originals, be aware that there are reproductions out there. 'Track of the Wolf' comes to mind as being a source for them.

Gary Carmichael Sr 10-13-2017 09:24 AM

If they are 12-b, they could run upwards of several hundred dollars depending on condition, Gary

Brian Hornacek 10-13-2017 09:43 AM

Thanks for the help, they are well worn originals.

Hal Sheets 10-13-2017 07:15 PM

Parker brass shells.
 
How can you tell a 12a from a 12b ?

Gary Laudermilch 10-13-2017 08:13 PM

This is a timely thread as a friend of mine had given to him 14 loaded 12 ga brass shells. The headstamp reads Remington UMC, No 12, Best. According to the overshot wad they are loaded to 3-1/4 Dr. Equiv. and 1-1/8 oz buckshot. They measure 2-1/2" in length and are pretty much tarnish free.

So, are they A or B? What vintage might they be? What might they be worth?

Dave Noreen 10-13-2017 09:07 PM

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Viet Nam war.

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Winchesters on the left, Remington on the right.

Gary Carmichael Sr 10-14-2017 10:10 AM

Hal, I will try to get you some photos of both, My wife updated the computer and now am having a problem to get photos to print, Gary

Dave Noreen 10-14-2017 10:52 AM

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Snapped another pic this morning --

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Dave Noreen 10-14-2017 11:04 AM

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You have to go back quite a ways to see the A and B shells. This from the 1880 Union Metallic Cartridge Co. catalog --

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and 1885-86 --

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mention A and B sizes.

By the 1887 UMC catalog there is no mention of A and B sizes --

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Gary Laudermilch 10-14-2017 11:53 AM

So, are the Viet Nam era brass hulls worth anything to reloaders or are they trash?

They must have been used early years of Nam. All I ever saw were od green plastic shells in 1969.

Mark Landskov 10-14-2017 01:17 PM

The outside diameter of the 12A brass shell is the same as the standard 12 gauge paper shell. The 12B brass shell is smaller than the 12A. Guns chambered for the 12A will handle 'modern' paper and plastic shells. There's a little more to it, overall, but that is it in a nutshell.

Jeff Kuss 10-14-2017 04:48 PM

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parker brass

Paul Harm 10-16-2017 10:45 AM

The Viet Nam brass shells were left over from WWII. When they got short in supply they went to plastic shells.

John Allen 10-16-2017 01:59 PM

I had several 10ga. that were headstamped Parker Bros Meriden,Ct.They all sold for between $100 and $175 each.Regular brass 10 or 12 gauge shells without the stamp will sell for around $30.Any shells with major gun company stamps will bring a premium.

edgarspencer 10-16-2017 07:46 PM

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What was the significance of nickel plated shells? These two NPE shells are both 12A, but the brass one is 2 9/16" and marked West Meriden, while the nickel plated shell is 3", and the headstamp has the diamond surrounding the primer, and is marked Meriden Ct.
My understanding, whether correct or not, is these were all made by UMC, in Bridgeport.

Dave Noreen 10-17-2017 12:14 AM

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Here is a UMC 10A for comparison --

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