Parker D grade Hammer Gun
 

Do these barrels look cut to you? I value your opinion.

Thanks, Ken

Not to me Ken. What is the serial number? We can look it up for ya.

Ken the only way you get wear on the end of the barrels like that is by putting the gun in and out of a case a couple of thousand times. If they were cut it was 100 years ago. Lets see the rest of that beauty.

They don't look cut to me, either but if they could talk I bet they could tell a lot of good stories. I'm with Larry, please share pictures of the rest of the gun.

Cheers

Dave, The serial number is 41529 it is a 10 gauge with 30 inch barrels. The shotgun is getting a face lift by Brad Bachelder.

Larry, here are some more pictures.

Ken,Very nice gun. 41529 is in the book as a D3 10 gauge 32" gun. I would have Brad check the length of the chokes. The"Book" has been wrong before.Also I would get a letter on the gun.

Thanks Dave. I fell in love with it after seeing the picket fence on the underside of the frame. I will post pictures after the restoration.

Thanks for your opinions, I felt that this is the way the barrels left the factory, I will have Brad check the length of chokes. Either way it is mine and will be out in the field again.

Ken

How much can be "trimmed" before the barrels no longer touch?? Two inches seems a fairly lengthy cut-off to still have barrels touching. I do know after a trim of 11 5/8 inches they certainly do not touch.

I don't know exactly Jack. I have D grade I fool around with the gun letter's at 30" and it's now 26".There is less than 1/32" gap with a few thousands of choke left. Fun gun at the skeet field though.I bought it for short money several years ago and I'm still glad I did.

The keels are in place - a pretty good sign that they haven't been cut unless by Parker Bros. 99% of cut Parkers were simply lopped off by amatuer "gunsmiths" who did not reset the keels.

Keen observation on the keels there Dean-O:whistle:

The right barrel looks a little out of round but that can be fixed. My guess is that they haven't been altered either.

Thanks R-r-r-ricar-r-r-rdo

The dimension of the bores and chokes will tell the story, but the PGCA letter is step one. I would never own such a gun without getting a letter of provenance. The original owner could be an interesting guy. Unfortunately, early ten gauges are hard to measure with Skeets or Galazan micrometers. Many of the early tens have bores over .800 and the usual bore micrometers will not measure quite that big. If the chokes are in place, these measuring devices will measure them OK. Some Parker barrels can be together at the muzzles after being cut quite a bit. Linda's DHE was cut from 32" or 30" to 26" and the muzzles still touch.

Your welcome there Dean-O but what is it your thanking me for? I confuse easily in the heat and humidity:p

Dean your keyboard activity seems dissoriented and shows early symptoms of Parkensons disease or perhaps Epilepsy.

I'll have a wiskey and pray for your speedy and complete recovery. In fact just for you Dean-O I'll have two wiskeys and pray you recover by bird season.

Right Rich....Does that confusion also happen after partaking of a certain amber liquid...:p

No, I can drink all the Ginger Ale my bladder can stand:rotf:

I do have a container of Lynchberg's finest resting in the freezer. It's so hot and humid I didn't even want to venture outside for a good cigar and a cold beer :(

I was rolling the R's as in the Spanish language Rich but I can't do it this evening because my tongue is somewhat thicker than when I made that previous post.... probably due to imbibing in that amber fluid a bit earlier.... no, not that ginger ale stuff - Lynchburg's finest of course. But you wouldn't know about that - you're such a Silas Marner with that stuff... keeping it locked away in a freezer somewhere.

doesn't matter to me if cut or not, just a beautiful piece that I'd proud to use and own then pass on to the next caretaker. RJ

Keels? Please define in place and out of place for a newbie oh knowlegable ones. ch

Hi Calvin - Keels are triangular steel alignment pieces about two inches long which are placed under the top and bottom ribs to 'align' the rib at intervals along the length of the barrels before the soldering process. If the barrels are cut two inches or more by an amatuer he generally would not have botherer to resolder the keels back in under the ribs. In the case of this gun it is plain to see that the keels are in place under the ribs - otherwise you would only see the dark gray solder there.

Thanks Dean I thought they went the lenght of the barrel. So if one bought a factory coach gun it would probably have keels?

There is a detailed drawing of them in the FAQ section at http://parkerguns.org/pages/faq/BarrelKeels.htm

There's no Silas Marner activity here. I keep it in the freezer so it's nice and cold. Sometimes you just want a swig and don't want/need a glass and ice by the time you get that stuff together you could have had three pulls from an ice cold bottle.

Learning to speak Spanish now are you? Next thing you'll be shooting an AYA.

Yes Calvin, if Parker Bros. had ever made a coach gun (e.g., some of the 'faked up' Wells Fargo guns we've seen) it would have had keels.

No Rich, I took four years of Spanish in school but don't remember a whole lot of it.... and I never intend to use it as a second language.... (please shoot me first) ... and Aguirre y Aranzabal has made some pretty nice shotguns in the higher grades but I have no desire to own one - I'm stuck on Parkers.