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Kirk Potter 08-16-2017 07:25 PM

20 Gauge AAHE
 
Not sure if this has been discussed or not but what do you guys think this will sell for?

https://www.proxibid.com/aspr/Docume...ories#topoflot

David Dwyer 08-17-2017 08:18 AM

This will be interesting to watch. In a high grade subgage Parker the price is driven by condition and this one has no CC. It is still a great gun but I expect will have little collector interest. JMHO
David

Dean Romig 08-17-2017 09:06 AM

And the wood appears to have been replaced, judging by several factors including the very thick wrist or grip area.





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edgarspencer 08-17-2017 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Dwyer (Post 223236)
This will be interesting to watch. In a high grade subgage Parker the price is driven by condition and this one has no CC. It is still a great gun but I expect will have little collector interest. JMHO
David

David, I was wondering about the lack of colors, and one possibility is that it was French Grayed, as opposed to displaying the colors from hardening.

Dean Romig 08-17-2017 11:02 AM

I can't recall ever seeing a Parker originally finished in French Gray.





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edgarspencer 08-17-2017 11:20 AM

Neither can I, and there's that 'never say never' thing.
Generally speaking, the greater the degree of engraving, the less visible case colors are.

Eric Eis 08-17-2017 11:27 AM

Quote from the auction house ad:

"The hard rubber grip cap and a lightly engraved brass oval insert. The bare butt is checkered and fitted with a skeletonized buttplate. "

When did Parker start putting on rubber grip caps and a brass oval insert on a AAH ? :shock:

Just wondering.............

Dean Romig 08-17-2017 11:37 AM

That's just an example of "A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing."

"Hard rubber" (gutta percha) is correct but "brass" is not.





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Dean Romig 08-17-2017 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 223246)
Generally speaking, the greater the degree of engraving, the less visible case colors are.


True, except in cases like Robin's AAHE and others with similar engraving.





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Bill Murphy 08-17-2017 01:14 PM

Auction description says "possibly restocked, replacement buttplate". That eliminates a lot of discussion.

David Dwyer 08-17-2017 02:30 PM

IMHO I doubt it brings the opening bid ,but then again look at what that AIS 20ga went for at Julia last year.
David

edgarspencer 08-17-2017 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 223250)
True, except in cases like Robin's AAHE and others with similar engraving.
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Original guns have their colors worn more quickly because of so many more 'edges'.

Richard Flanders 08-17-2017 03:40 PM

So, what's with the two different numbers on the barrel flats? 114 and 115?? And the serial number on the table has a 7 overstamped with an 8. That seems pretty odd for a gun of that grade.

edgarspencer 08-17-2017 03:42 PM

Whitworth tubes are individually serialized. The listing makes mention of the restamping of the SN.

edgarspencer 08-17-2017 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Dwyer (Post 223261)
IMHO I doubt it brings the opening bid ,but then again look at what that AIS 20ga went for at Julia last year.
David

I'm surprised you would say that. I think it's a lovely gun, and while it's not of the quality of last year's A1S, it's still pretty nice. I see Julia's is boasting another 20ga. A1S for this fall. I don't give a lot of thought who the buyers are of these high value pieces, but I do wonder about the owners. We're they cherished family heirlooms, or just up in the attic gathering dust since gramps died. I have these same daydreams when I'm out driving through "old money" towns; how many valuable firearms have I just driven by.

Kirk Potter 08-17-2017 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 223270)
I'm surprised you would say that. I think it's a lovely gun, and while it's not if the quality of last year's A1S, it's still pretty nice. I see Julia's is boasting another 20ga. A1S for this fall. I don't give a lot of thought who the buyers are of these high value pieces, but I do wonder about the owners. We're they cherished family heirlooms, or just up in the attic gathering dust since gramps died. I have these same daydreams when I'm out driving through "old money" towns; how many valuable firearms have I just driven by.

I keep hoping that maybe, just maybe, the next garage sale I stop at is going to have a dusty Leg O Mutton case with a C/B/A grade in it.. :rotf: Don't see that happening.

Dean Romig 08-17-2017 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk Potter (Post 223271)
I keep hoping that maybe, just maybe, the next garage sale I stop at is going to have a dusty Leg O Mutton case with a C/B/A grade in it.. :rotf: Don't see that happening.


Don't lose hope... They are still out there, and you, or I, or anyone reading this, just might be the next very lucky finder. I know... I've been very lucky on a few occasions - but nothing higher than a B so far.





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wayne goerres 08-17-2017 10:07 PM

I think I will stay off the roads while Edger is driving around day dreaming.

Bill Murphy 08-18-2017 09:59 AM

Taking Edgar's comment about a recased AAHE, maybe the gun in question will look like Robin's gun in a few months. Stay tuned.

edgarspencer 08-18-2017 10:38 AM

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Rich Anderson 08-18-2017 01:37 PM

I bet it hits 7 figures. Go find another one.

Greg Baehman 08-18-2017 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Anderson (Post 223305)
I bet it hits 7 figures. Go find another one.

7 figures?

edgarspencer 08-18-2017 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Baehman (Post 223306)
7 figures?

Sure, with a decimal point.

Dean Romig 08-18-2017 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Anderson (Post 223305)
I bet it hits 7 figures.

I'm hoping you are including the two figures to the right of the decimal point....:corn:





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Bill Murphy 08-18-2017 05:04 PM

I think Rich means "six figures". He could be right. The restock should be identified with the name of the stockmaker.

Rich Anderson 08-18-2017 05:31 PM

I did mean 6 figures. Fat fingers and cold medicine. I bet it goes just north of 100K. I would look good in the grouse woods with it but there just aren't enough of the right kind of zero's in the check book:rotf:

Dean Romig 08-18-2017 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 223317)
I think Rich means "six figures". He could be right. The restock should be identified with the name of the stockmaker.

Judging once again by the thickness in the wrist, along with the contour of the nose of the comb, I'd say DelGrego.





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Chuck Bishop 08-18-2017 05:55 PM

It looks like it has mullerd borders and the nose may be a little thick but the flute is not slanted down real bad. Did Del Grego do mullerd borders? Regardless it a wonderfully fitted stock.

P.S. I only have the order book and there is nothing special about the order.

Jim DiSpagno 09-09-2017 07:10 PM

Well, if in fact I'd did sell, according to Proxibid, it sold for $50,000.00 onsite and did not meet their low estimate of 55K. A bargain, if you will.

Bill Davis 09-09-2017 09:18 PM

AAHE 20
 
I can verify that it DID sell for 50K. I thought it was a pretty good deal!

Jim DiSpagno 09-09-2017 10:28 PM

Thanks Bill. Sometimes they say sold but really didn't. Jim

Bill Davis 09-09-2017 10:36 PM

You're right Jim! I've seen that happen many times, then it shows up on a post auction make an offer list!

William Kinsey 02-04-2018 04:11 PM

History..as supplied to me
 
Sorry wrong AAHE


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