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bob weeman 07-27-2017 11:23 AM

Shooting 12 gauge in a 10 gauge
 
Anyone here ever shot 12 gauge shells in a 10. I have heard a few stories of this being....with no inserts.....

Rick Losey 07-27-2017 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bob weeman (Post 222268)
I have heard a few stories of this being....with no inserts.....

stories ?? from someone who still has all their fingers to type with??

:shock:

bob weeman 07-27-2017 01:28 PM

I am sure it would split the shell but think the pressure would be less since it is a bigger space??? I will ask Lefty if he still has all his fingers....

Paul Harm 07-27-2017 01:56 PM

I do all the time - with inserts. I would think the shells would go down in and make it hard for the firing pin to hit the primer hard enough, and then there would be a problem with extracting the shells. Who told you the " stories " ?

bob weeman 07-27-2017 02:11 PM

Local guy and read it somewhere while researching inserts....I will try a shell with primer only to see if they fire.....interesting subject to me but that shell bursting and flopping around in the chamber must have some I'll effects....

Dave Tatman 07-27-2017 04:18 PM

Ya think..... ?? :duck:

Rick Losey 07-27-2017 05:27 PM

a 12 gauge shell is going to barely catch on the rim of a 10 ga chamber

IF the firing pin is long enough to set it off - the explosion is going to slam that back into the breach face as it expands to fill the void left by the difference in diameter

so now a split and over stretched hull head is going to be jammed up between the extractor and breech face- i expect it will be difficult to open after that

firing just a primer will not prove any thing

please do not use a good gun-

IMHO - dangerous and foolish

i just hope this was a joke -

i have erased several comments about intelligence and seeing this on you tube :whistle::whistle::whistle:

Bill Murphy 07-27-2017 06:03 PM

I have done it, more than a few times. I have never had a misfire or a failure to extract. I am careful to lay the shell in the chamber and close the gun slowly or the shell, will, in fact, slip past the extractor's rim recess. However, once the gun is closed, the shell will not go anywhere.

John Campbell 07-27-2017 06:27 PM

I fail to see the benefit to mankind in this thread. But maybe I'm just too cautious. To me, it's kind of like asking:

"If I stick my hand in a bag of sleeping rattlesnakes, will I get bitten?"

Maybe...

Carvel Whaley 07-27-2017 08:10 PM

I have a lifter that I bought as a 12 ga. When I shoot it, the shells split about 25% of the time. I measured the chambers and barrels and It is, by measurement , an 11 ga. The Parker book lists it as a 12 ga., however by the serial number, it was built in the time frame when several 11 ga guns were made. In view of this, I don't see how a 12 ga shell shot in a 10 ga gun would not split. JMO. Carvel

John Dallas 07-27-2017 09:12 PM

I ended up putting a set of 20 gauge barrels on a 12 gauge Model 21 (don't ask) but it resulted in a failure to fire because the firing pin hit off center. And, I missed the grouse

Dean Romig 07-27-2017 11:16 PM

That's pretty sad John..... Couldn't you come up with a more romantic reason for missing the grouse?.... like "His explosive flush occurred with such enthusiasm that the rush of the air over his primaries coupled with the dry leaves and detritus lifting from the forest floor obscured my vision of "His Majesty, The Grouse" as he darted behind the nearest Thornapple tree, that I couldn't possibly have centered him in my Parker's pattern."

I've got a million of 'em. A different one for every miss....





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Pete Lester 07-28-2017 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 222304)
That's pretty sad John..... Couldn't you come up with a more romantic reason for missing the grouse?.... like "His explosive flush occurred with such enthusiasm that the rush of the air over his primaries coupled with the dry leaves and detritus lifting from the forest floor obscured my vision of "His Majesty, The Grouse" as he darted behind the nearest Thornapple tree, that I couldn't possibly have centered him in my Parker's pattern."



Nicely written, didn't you sell cars too? :whistle:

Dean Romig 07-28-2017 07:56 AM

Good one Pete.





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John Dallas 07-28-2017 08:07 AM

Uhm, No - Any Philistine who shoots a M21 at grouse can't be that creative


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