Vintage double trap
 

I would like to set up a vintage double trap field for a fun shoot. Does anyone have a link explaining the sport?? I assume it was different from today's Olympic double trap. Thanks

Craig

i wonder if the ATA might information on old rules an course set up

Except for Olympic bunker, trap doubles has been the same since trap started using clay targets. Specifics on layout, speed, height, distance, and angles can be found in the ATA rule book or other publications in old Remington documents.

Go to the ATA Rule Book for standard American doubles trap (the Olympic bunker layout and rules will fry your brain!).

Doubles Trap Field
 

Craig, these are from 1937 Western Trap and Skeet Manual.
Hope this helps...
Randy Davis

"the Olympic bunker layout and rules will fry your brain!" If you think the rules are tough, try shooting the game. I shot 3 rounds last summer, and scored 4. 5. and 1. (2 shots allowed per bird) Now, I'm not going to win the Grand American, but i can normally shoot 20+ on American trap.
If I never shoot Bunker again it will be too soon!

ATA Double Trap
 

Forgot to add... Once you have it all done, grab two boxes of shells and shoot 5 pair per post. The fun has begun...

Trap3

C,

I'd give this guy a buzz!! He broke the record back in May, and despite his choice of scattergun, is obviously quite talented. :bowdown::bowdown:

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I shot the game hard for 10 years with some of the best shooters in the world. At the last US Grand Prix of America held at Ontelaunee Rod & Gun Club in New Tripoli PA (just north of Allentown), I volunteered along with 2 others to score the final shootoff round for the Gold Medal. Out of a squad of 6 shooters, there were 4 x 25s, 1 x 24 and 1x23. Winners, of course, had to be calculated for Silver, Bronze, and HOA as well by using the "long run" rule(s).

At my "peak shooting career" in bunker, I could break 17-19 with luck in registered competition. One day I showed up very late for the last practice rounds before the registered shoot the next day, thinking the range was open until 5 PM - surprise! (it closed down at 3!). I shot the last 2 available practice rounds of the day, nervous, rushed, harried & etc. - and shot 2 x 24s back to back! Closest I ever came to that "Olympic Rush"! If you think you know how to handle a shotgun, try it sometime.......

I was friends with Don Haldeman who won Olympic gold in trapshooting in i think 1976. He fitted a replacement Parker stock to my SC SBT, recut the checkering and refinished it. Not easy refitting a Parker stock if it's not original to the gun. He died to soon.

Chuck, Don came to several of our major bunker matches at Ontelaunee. Very easygoing, reserved type guy. He would show up very unobtrusively and just blend into the spectator gallery. Michael Diamond, who won the Olympic gold medal in trap in Atlanta in 1996 and again in Sydney in 2000 was also a regular competitor at our international matches there.

Craig, from the 1928 Rule Book: 16 yards, each double to be thrown as a right and left quarterer whose flights shall be limited between 20 and 65 degrees right and left of an imaginary straight line drawn through the center of the number 3 firing point and prolonged through the center of the central trap or through the center of the single trap when only one trap is used.

The Rules go on to describe using stakes to distinguish if targets are within or without bounds.

I don't shoot competitive Trap so I don't know how this relates to present day ATA Rules.

frank

North Mountain Sportsman's Club in Sullivan county, PA has a certified bunker trap field. We were there to shoot sporting one day and watched some Olympic hopefuls practice. The coach (I forget his name) goaded us into giving it a try. I only had 1 improved mod choke tube so I only shot once per target. Well, I shot an 18 which I thought was pretty good considering I am not a trap shooter. I am not fond of shooting american trap but this bunker trap was fun and challenging. If you ever have the chance give it a try.

Thanks all for the information.

Gary, do you know Brent Richmond from Hillsgrove Pa? His grandson, Joshua Richmond is a former worlds champion at Olympic trap doubles and has competed in the Olympics.

Here you go Craig
http://www.trapshooters.com/threads/...oubles.422185/

Pre- and immediately post-WWI American trap doubles, pre-WWI Olympic Trap, modern Olympic (bunker) trap (2 shots at one target) and modern Olympic Trap Doubles are all very different disciplines.

The first Olympic 'bunker' is in the foreground at the 1908 Olympics - the British team

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../412628867.jpg

Rules for the 1912 Stockholm Olympics are here, with a link to a brief live action film of the shooting
https://docs.google.com/document/pub...jEdR4j_E9l4HLw

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../408664455.jpg

Chuck, I do not know either of them personally. My son works in that area and he knows them. I am aware of Joshua's accomplishments however.

I am more familiar with Morgan Craft, also from rural Sullivan county and a frequent shooter at North Mountain. Morgan competed in the last Olympics in women's skeet and I believe made it to the medal qualifying round. She won the world cup last year. I have had the pleasure of shooting sporting with her on a few occasions.

Hard to believe an area so rural would generate two Olympic contenders.

I'm not a trap shooter, but it seems to me that some number of years ago didnt they reduce the angles for the birds. Apparently the competitors didn't want those hard right and hard left birds.

oh no--- snowflake trap

:biglaugh:

The 1898 “Trap Shooting Rules” by the American Trapshooting Association (courtesy of Randy Davis) listed the following rules:
Charge of powder was unlimited
Shot was limited to 1 1/4 oz. by “Dixon’s measure”
Weight limit (there was no weight limit in 1890 or 1893) and ‘naked’ (weight without hand guard or recoil 'boot')was not stated:
10g - 9 lbs. 4 oz.
12g - 8 lbs. 4 oz.
16g - 7 lbs. 12 oz.
20g - 7 lbs. 8 oz.
Single target rise……….Double target rise:
10g - 18 yds……...........…16 yds.
12g - 16 yds…….............14 yds.
16g - 14 yds…….............12 yds.
20g - 13 yds…….............11 yds.