Loose Breech
 

This is probably a stupid question, but can a double with a really loose breech be tightened up by a good gunsmith? I'm looking at a 1926 Ithaca NID 10 bore grade 2 with an English stock (the wood is awesome with incredible patina)...the seller is willing to drop $800 off the price of the gun.

Thanks,

Shawn

If you are saying the gun is off face it can be repaired by welding the barrel and refitting it to the hinge pin. About a $450. repair.

a Super??? if so you lucky dog :rotf::rotf::rotf:
pictures when you get it please

and yes - as Craig says easy fix for a qualified smith

and an easy screw up for an unqualified one

chose wisely:)

Rick...I think this gun is a pre-Super...but I'm not sure. I have the Ithaca book and it seems to fall under the 1926 NID. If I purchase the gun, I promise to photograph it.

I have had two guns repaired in such a way and with great results on both. :) The second by Classic Gunstocks in NY State. They were great to work with and did a fine job.

$800 is a fair reduction off the price to cover the needed repair.

NID serial numbers began at 425000.

I forget the serial number

but it is an NID Dave
cocking indicators and all

Are there early NID tens that are not Super Tens? If so, what is the difference?

I don't think so Bill

but far from an Ithaca expert, all the NID 10's I have seen were either Supers - or later Magnums

or supers someone tried to make into a magnum :shock:

The Super-X 2 7/8 inch 10-gauge load isn't in a Western Cartridge Co. catalog dated March 2, 1925, but is in one dated January 1, 1927. I don't have access to any Western Cartridge Co. paper dated 1926.

The first 1926 NID period Ithaca Gun Co. catalog states "In a dainty little .410 it is a delightful gun for "a lady fair" and in the big super 10 bore it is THE water fowl gun "PAR EXCELLENCE"." That statement was still in the early 1932 Ithaca Gun Co. catalog that didn't yet include the Magnum-Ten. In the second 1932 Ithaca Gun Co. catalog it is changed to "In a dainty little .410 it is a delightful gun for "a lady fair" and in the big super or Magnum 10 bore it is THE water fowl gun "PAR EXCELLENCE"."

Thanks for your advice everyone. I purchased the gun for $1099.99 (the original asking price was $1999.99) from Cabela's and plan to have it looked at by a gunsmith who happens to be the one they use for returned guns. It's very nice and I'll post some photos here tomorrow. The serial number is 450606

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Having seen the results of the "gunsmiths" that cabela's uses in my area, I would not send this gun to one of them. Send it to Brian Dudley to have the barrel hook welded and refitted. That way you will know it was done right.

Other reliable and professional sources for such work are Brad Bachelder and Kirk Merrington.

Just Google either. And remember, a bodgered job is no bargain.

That gun was a bargain if the bore are good. Last two guns ( non Parker ) I had put back on face was $350 each plus shipping. That was about 5 years ago done by Freddie Brunner. I am guess it depends on what is needed.

Well it looks as if you were able to get a large price reduction on a gun I tried to buy. I paid to have the gun shipped from Maine to the store in Richmond. I examined the gun and it needing work (new pad to lengthen, refinishing the wood, recutting checkering, removing pitting and reengraving on the left side) to get it in the condition I wanted, I tried to get a price reduction. I was told absolutely $1900 was the lowest they would do based upon what they had paid for it, not a penny less so I walked away (both stores said the same thing). I left my name and number with Richard, the manager down there if they would do better. I know he still had my info since he had my FFL on file. So much for Cabelas' business.

Not the first time I've been screwed by a so called gun library. I had a Parker Trojan 20 on hold at a Gander Mountain one time, and when I went back they would not sell it to me. Defective. Crack behind the tang. Said they had to "destroy" it. I imagine the manager who refused to let me leave with it took it home.

The 10 is the gun I opened a thread about opening chambers on the Super Ten to 3 1/2 inches.

p.s. The 10 is the reason I sold the recent 20 Trojan with hopes of buying. Oh well.

New upland bird gun Shawn?:whistle:

I needed a better advantage against those running little bastard scaled quail! :banghead::rolleyes:

quail gun, eh? I assume you'll be cutting the barrels to 20" then??? :eek:

This past weekend I got to finally fire the Ithaca 10...now I understand why so many of you love the short tens! I'm hooked!

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forty yrds

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good pattern that was a dead turkey....how far was the target...yep every body loves the short ten....charlie

40 yrds out Charlie

:shock:How many shells?:corn:

What oz. load and what shot size?

How many inches vert. and horiz. is that target?





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Dean that's the right barrel at 40 yrds. RST 1&1/4 oz 5 shot. Not sure on the target dimensions. I shot at the target 3 more times because my brother was convinced I'd need his services after shooting a 10 gauge...he's a dentist :rotf::rotf:

When I measured the chokes when trying to buy it from Cabelas, from memory both chokes were .040. That is if my memory is correct, but it has been over a month ago..

I actually had this gun shipped from Wisconsin to Maine and offered them 1200.00. They wold not lower the price either. Nice gun but the stock was loose, the forend had a gap between it and the barrels and the barrels did not ring. I wold have the rear stock tightened up before I shot it too much....will be a great gun once put back into shape....

So that target actually has been shot at four times? No wonder the pattern looked so unbelievably dense.





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I went with $1500 in my pocket to buy it depending on what it looked like in person, since it was a higher grade than what you normally find. I had to walk away as well when they would not budge. It is obvious they buy guns without checking out the true condition. They also had a Parker 20 Trojan and had it marked modified and full, for $1400. I had to break the news to them that it was cut to 26" and was cylinder and cylinder and rough, and should have been less than half their asking price.

wondered why it traveled so much, i watched it move around and had thought about having it shipped to the one near by- but assumed they would not deal since the price had stayed there in spite of the movement


at least it found a home

Dean the photo is from my first shot...then I shot the gun 3 more times.

This Ithaca isn't perfect...but I really like it!

I got a good deal on it...probably because of the guy at the gun library knew I took it in the shorts on the other deals I've done with them :rotf::rotf:

Holy Cow!!

That is one dense pattern at forty yards!!

That's incredible!





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i agree with dean thats a mighty fine pattern a turkey aint got a chance....charlie