new match @ Southern SxS
 

I'm sure I read the rules on the 16 gauge and soon to be 16-20 match @ the Southern; however, I don't remember ...are Parker reproductions allowed in this event? Jim Garrett

Yes sir, IN both the 16 ga and the new 20 ga event.

16/20 event
 

Thanks John, That is all I needed to know...for now anyway Jim

new 16/20ga event @ Southern
 

John, since the reproduction Parkers are allowable in the new event I finally found and acquired a 2 bbl set to shoot in said event. I promise I will practice enough that I won't embarrass the Parker team. I also have a new set of eyes...lense emplant in both eyes and I am reading on the 20/15 line of the eye chart! I won't be able to make Rick's shoot in SC but I'll see you in Sanford in April 2018. Jim Garrett

a point of clarification. There are two Southerns, both run by Rick Hemmingway and Bill Kempher . If I am correct this event is only at the Spring Southern not the upcoming Fall Southern at the end of October.
David

I know it sounds like sacrilege but could you shoot a 12 ga Parker with 20 gage Briley tubes if that is all one has ? A purest I am not but do respect the purist in their pursuit of originality. My Parker has very pitted barrels I do want to keep it original a Hammer #2 top break made in 1885. So it is the most affordable way to enjoy the gun and still not molest it for me to shoot it.
Buddy Walters

John
The event rules do not allow you to shoot a 12ga gun with inserts in any subgage event. You could shoot it in any of the open events or in any 12 ga event though. I would love to see you come , meet the Parker crew, and enjoy your gun.
David

John
A suggestion is to locate a replacement barrel for your gun.
I do no think that would be difficult or prohibitive expencive. Try Dave Fjelline, Tom Carter or Brian Dudley.
I purchased one for a lifter from Brian for $350?
David

What if I find a 12g Parker with bad bores and have Briley install a set of permanent 20g tubes? That would keep an old warhorse in the game? Would that work for the Challenge event?

The challenge event is an open gage event. I shoot it with a D grade 20ga hammer gun so I do not see a any issue
David

There must be some reason I can't think of to not be allowed to use tubes for sub gauge events. The NSCA and NSSA both allow it. Maybe it is so only people with deep pockets can enter, because everyone knows the price of sub gauge guns goes way up.

Paul
To the best of my knowledge, there are not any subgage events limited to Parkers. Yes, sub gage Parkers are expensive but if you wish to shoot in the subgage arena purchase something else. I have a fantastic AYA 28ga that I just love, not as much as my Parker 28ga's ,but also not anywhere near the costs.
David

There seems to be a lot of confusion concerning this thread.
The original poster asked if reproductions could be used for the new event at the Southern. Knowing Mr Garret and the way he asked the question I assumed he meant the 16 and 20 Parker Challenge events that I sponsor at the spring southern.

Please understand my response is intended only for the 16 and 20 gauge Parker vs Smith challenge events at the spring southern.
My response is NOT FOR ANYOTHER EVENTS AT THE SPRING SOUTHERN OR ANY OTHER SOUTHERN OR OTHER SIDE BY SIDE EVENT.

Yes reproduction guns are allowed. There is NO mixing of gauges. You must shoot a Parker or LC Smith. You must shoot the 20 ga event with a 20 ga (no 28 or 410 or other) and you must shoot the 16 ga event with a 16 (no 20, no 28, 410 or other).
Guns that have been altered, sleeved, had permanent tube sets put in them are perfectly legit. The guns do not have to be "original" or in original configuration.

To Mr Harms question, he brings up a valid point. It is not my intention to exclude anyone that is willing to and wants to participate. I need sometime to think about the removable tube set issue. I will get back with a decision on this at a later date. I would rather folks participate than not. It is a hot topic (on both sides of the fence) (if you don't believe me please search the 15 page thread back in 2013 where I got the crap beat out of me and slandered on this site for asking if tube sets were ok / considered ok/ legit for side by side events like the southern).

Again my response is only for the 16 and 20 ga challenge events that I sponsor on Thursday at the spring southern.

Thanks,
John

John, sorry you got trashed. I can see the thought on shooting the correct gauge gun for the event, but at the same time there is no advantage shooting a 12ga with gauge reducers. You're still shooting the proper gauge shells whether it's a temporary fix [ tubes, Gaugemates ] or a permanent fix. Guess I don't understand the difference between a temp fix or permanent fix. But then it's not my call. As my friend says " do what you want, you're gonna anyways". Thanks for your reply.

20 gauge tubes
 

John, I have a Purdey hammergun in which I had to install Briley 20 gauge tubes. It is shootable in the 20 gauge events at the Southern since it is a drop of only 1 gauge. Yes, I know that the 16 gauge is the next gauge down but no one makes 16 gauge tubes therefore 20 gauge is the next size down.It is a very enjoyable gun to shoot so don't be afraid to try 20 gauge tubes in it.The Purdey was made in 1855 so it is always the oldest gun at any shoot. Jim Garrett