4 to 6 frame 12 ga
 

i am interested in knowing how many 4 to 6 frames 12 ga s there is out there...i have read here on this forum about one 6 frame 12 ga...would be interested in total weight of the barrels and total weight of the guns...charlie

Jack Puglisi let me shoulder the 6 frame 12 at the Vegas show. It must be ten years ago now. Big gun but once you got it swinging it kept going. I think a 3 1/2 magnum would feel like a 22 long rifle. He sold it not long after. I wonder who has it now.

well we know there is at least one big frame 12 ga...i m with you there would not be much reciol even with heavy loads...this would have been a interesting gun to have got a letter on....charlie

I saved some pictures of it from Jack's web site --

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I wonder if it was chambered for 3 inch shells? 3 1/2? The unstruck barrels weigh more than most of my finished guns.

Looks like that 6 frame 12 was made specifically to test proof loads :shock:






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Looks to me to be designed to run on leftover dynamite should you run out of ammo.....

Does anyone know how long the barrels are? With the chamber wall thickness as heavy as it looks, I am somewhat suprised that they are only marked 7/13. My 6 frame 8 gauge with 36" barrels are marked 9/1.

if this gun was not chambered for 3 or 3 1/2 inch shell it should have been...thanks for the pictures of this gun...i would say i would have thought the barrels to have weighed moreanyway its a knock out for sure i hope someone is useing this on waterfowl some wereany more big frame 12 ga out there....charlie

Charlie, I think I own your dream gun. I have a #6 frame hammerless that was originally an 8 gauge and was rebarreled at Parker Brothers with ten gauge Vulcan Steel barrels chambered 3 1/2", probably before Parker advertised 3 1/2" guns. It may be the first modern, fluid steel 10 gauge chambered for the 3 1/2" magnum shells. Unfortunately, it is a 13 pounder or better and not pleasant to carry.

but Bill

those guns were only meant to carried from the club house to the boat

then it was just lifting them to shoot

Bill what was the date in which the gun was rebarreled?

yes bill you have my dream gun....dont you wish you had the 8 ga barrels also what a gun...who ever ordered this gun sure knew what they wanted....parker brothers really made some interesting guns for us....charlie

Phil, no record of the rebarreling. It was probably done after the end of the order books or is in a missing book. The gun was originally ordered by a Nebraska farm family who were big property owners, and obviously waterfowlers. I have a bunch of provenance on the family. I even have one early ATA record on him.

My 6 FRAME Hammerless 32" 10 BORE barrels weigh 8/1. I am not sure if fluid steel would weigh more than the damascus I have. But if the 12 bore barrels were also 32" I would expect them to be heavier.... So perhaps they are only 30"s ???

Thanks Bill. Makes you wonder if it was a way to keep using the shotgun after the 8 gauge was banned. After all with those long chambers it put it right back up there with the 8.

My 5 frame 10 gauge top lever hammer gun Also came out of Nebraska. Shipped in 1890 and letters to 3" chambers.

Chamber inserts would have been so much easier, and cheaper than new barrels.

Good point Bill, I wonder when chamber inserts were developed? Inserts keep you shooting but the inserts I used are not the fasting things to use. I am going to sell the ones I have because I just so rarely use them.

phill are the inserts for a 8 gauge if they are i would be interested in them...charlie

Charlie I only have one not a set but I will sort through some stuff this weekend and PM you.