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Rick Losey 03-13-2017 08:15 AM

Daisy model 21 double barrel BB gun
 
Ok. A fine double for a ten year old :rotf:

Or an adult acting like a kid

Found a like new one of these for sale this weekend - thinking about going back for it

I wondered if anyone has one I assume they are the typical Daisy spring fired guts. Is there enough power to hit a target (paper plates or the like) tossed in the air 10 - 20 feet away ? The typical BB gun mostly teaches rifle skills although my childhood shooting buddy and I tried to develop our wing shooting skill with our single barrel ones

Eric Eis 03-13-2017 09:36 AM

I would buy it just for the Hell of it.......... Sounds neat, never seen one

Rick Losey 03-13-2017 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric Eis (Post 214210)
I would buy it just for the Hell of it.......... Sounds neat, never seen one

I have heard of them for years

But this is the first I have actually seen. They call it a model 21 and then put side plates on it

Should have called it a Daisy Elsie :rotf:

Robin Lewis 03-13-2017 10:03 AM

Interesting, I never knew about these.... so I found this to see what it is:
http://forum.daisymuseum.com/daisy-m...topic5300.html

Phil Yearout 03-13-2017 10:09 AM

Cool! I want one!

Rick Losey 03-13-2017 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin Lewis (Post 214218)
Interesting, I never knew about these.... so I found this to see what it is:
http://forum.daisymuseum.com/daisy-m...topic5300.html

That's it

Eric Eis 03-13-2017 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Losey (Post 214224)
That's it

Rick, you buy it...............?

Rick Losey 03-13-2017 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Eis (Post 214227)
Rick, you buy it...............?

Not yet But I will likely go back when they open up again next weekend. We were the last ones out of the shop - so I know it's still there it's not far to just run over there

I can probably find it a home for it if I decide not to keep it:rotf:

I was hoping some one knew if they had any power to them. I have had Daisy guns that carried a distance and those you could see the BB arch out of the barrel to the ground a few feet away

Dave Suponski 03-13-2017 01:05 PM

Kinda reminds me of the Fox toy gun. Pretty cool.

Angel Cruz 03-13-2017 01:48 PM

Rick, last year there was one listed on craiglist here in Fl. and the guy was asking 850.00. It was in real good condition.

edgarspencer 03-13-2017 02:47 PM

If it's the early one that was made in Plymouth Michigan,with the wooden stock, $500-750. New conditioned ones bring over $800
If it's the later one with the plastic stock, Made in Rogers Arkansas, $250-400 (tops).
They use the same shot tube as the Model 25 pump, and those have plenty of power.

Be Careful, cuz, you'll shoot your eye out!

Rick Losey 03-13-2017 04:33 PM

thanks -- it is the plastic model - i wish it was wood

Rick Losey 03-13-2017 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 214246)
If it's the early one that was made in Plymouth Michigan,with the wooden stock, $500-750. New conditioned ones bring over $800
If it's the later one with the plastic stock, Made in Rogers Arkansas, $250-400 (tops).

Be Careful, cuz, you'll shoot your eye out!

BTW- looked around the internet - if you can find me a mint model 21 one at those prices - I'll take two :draw:

Randy Davis 03-14-2017 10:02 AM

Daisy Double
 
Have not seen ona in years. Was at a show in KC. The seller was wanting $600

RD

charlie cleveland 03-14-2017 02:24 PM

i seen one at a gun show a few years back i think the price was 250 this was the first and last i have seen....charlie

wayne goerres 03-14-2017 09:52 PM

You mean both his eyes . If it doubles.

edgarspencer 03-15-2017 06:14 AM

Good point Wayne

Phillip Carr 03-15-2017 10:41 AM

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Just thought I would add a picture of my SBT Daisy. It's a 1936 model 25 same inside barrel tube as the DBL. variation 7. Engraved pigeon gun no less. LOL

http://parkerguns.org/forums/images/...attach/jpg.gif

Phillip Carr 03-15-2017 10:43 AM

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Tap picture for better detail.

http://parkerguns.org/forums/attachm...1&d=1489592530

Phillip Carr 03-15-2017 10:46 AM

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edgarspencer 03-15-2017 11:40 AM

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Mine is also the rare 'Pigeon' model, not the more common "Flying Turnip" model

Robin Lewis 03-15-2017 12:09 PM

Wow, I never knew Daisy had so much to offer. When I was a kid I only ever saw one type .... who knew. I did a search and I see lots of Daisy BB guns for sale on ebay????? I didn't think ebay allowed gun sales?

I also found this sit and learned a lot:
http://www.thetexasantiquetoycollector.com/links.html

Rick Losey 03-15-2017 12:22 PM

BB guns are not yet firearms

air rifles are getting that tag more and more, admittedly - some are getting pretty powerful

if kids (big or little) can't start out with them - its one more lost recruitment possibility and one more nail in the coffin of our sports

Robin Lewis 03-15-2017 12:28 PM

Sorry for the miss information, for some reason I thought Ebay wouldn't even let toy guns on the site? That's why finding BB Guns there surprised me.

Phil Yearout 03-15-2017 08:23 PM

I've just got the ol' Red Ryder - and it's a fairly recent issue no less. Here's Granddaughter Gracie with it; she's pretty good when she sights with the correct eye!

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps505f1f89.jpg

Bill Jolliff 03-15-2017 09:07 PM

Not a Daisy side by side but a Fox. A. H. that is made in Philly.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...6/IMG_0885.jpg

Rick Losey 03-15-2017 09:10 PM

Part of your match pair Bill. :corn

Bill Jolliff 03-15-2017 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Losey (Post 214491)
Part of your match pair Bill. :corn

Yep!

chris dawe 03-16-2017 06:50 AM

Ive handled this fine gun at Phil's poolside ...its every bit as nice as the pics describe

Daryl Corona 03-16-2017 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 214428)
Mine is also the rare 'Pigeon' model, not the more common "Flying Turnip" model

Edgar,
I thought the "Pigeon" model had a straight grip and 32 LPI checkering. I'm afraid someone duped you. What you have is a "Yeoman's" grade with the corncob forend and plain walnut stock sans checkering.

edgarspencer 03-16-2017 09:05 AM

Both mine, and Phil's are the rare Pre-64 model, long before the Yeoman model came out. These were engraved by famed engraver Stanislaw Kowalski

edgarspencer 03-16-2017 09:15 AM

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This is my model 118 Targeteer. Technically it isn't a BB gun. A BB gun shoots .177 diameter pellets. The Model 118 shoots a .118 diameter pellet, hence the model number 118.

This is my favorite concealed carry gun when I go out and suspect I'll run into a rogue gang of grey squirrels.
I do have a permit for this class of 'Destructive Devise'.

charlie cleveland 03-16-2017 09:22 AM

i aint seen one of these in a while i donot remember what happened to mine...charlie

Rick Losey 03-16-2017 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 214516)
This is my model 118 Targeteer. Technically it isn't a BB gun. A BB gun shoots .177 diameter pellets. The Model 118 shoots a .118 diameter pellet, hence the model number 118.

This is my favorite concealed carry gun when I go out and suspect I'll run into a rogue gang of grey squirrels.
I do have a permit for this class of 'Destructive Devise'.

I have one of those - my grandfather gave it to me when I was little - not sure if it had been his or my Dad's - he also gave me a Red Ryder he took away from some kid for shooting out one of the few street lights we even had in town (Grandpa was the part time cop in town)

edgarspencer 03-16-2017 09:45 AM

Several of my friends had the model 155 when we were little. That was Daisy's 'Trojan'. My model 25 belonged to a guy down the road, who is 6-7 years older than I am. His father was going to throw it out, many years after his son had grown and moved out. He gave it to me, and it was missing the shot tube, which we happened across, in their old wood shed many years later, Nice to reunite the parts.
My recollection was the 155, and the Red Ryder, had very little oomph, so the streetlamps in your town must have been the old, clear glass light bulbs.
The only light a 118 can shoot out is a candle, no more than 6" away; barely a puff.
My dad wouldn't let me have a BB gun, but gave me my first .22 when I was BB gun age. I was only allowed to use it with his supervision, but he believed kids thought of BB guns as a toy, and were too careless with them. This may have been true, and was probably a reflection of parents also thinking that, and not properly training their kids to respect the gun.

Rick Losey 03-16-2017 09:56 AM

I still have my Dad's old Daisy- i will have to get it out and see what model

it had plenty of power - but had been converted to a muzzleloader :rotf:

Dad and his brother wore out the thread on the gut - Grandpa's solution was to braze it in place - :corn:

my bb gun as a kid was a crossman - that one had a of of power -one of our games as kids was to see how far we could keep a can moving - mine had the distance to reach out

Phil Yearout 03-16-2017 11:55 AM

Guess I forgot to list my scoped 880 and my Powerline 1200...

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps6pqqhjmo.png

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...psgqw4wrs4.jpg

Gotta admit those 118's are pretty cool; may have to keep my eye out for one of those.

Dean Romig 03-16-2017 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 214524)
My dad wouldn't let me have a BB gun, but gave me my first .22 when I was BB gun age. I was only allowed to use it with his supervision, but he believed kids thought of BB guns as a toy, and were too careless with them. This may have been true, and was probably a reflection of parents also thinking that, and not properly training their kids to respect the gun.


Same with my parents. I was never allowed to have a BB gun and for the same reasons, but like you, I had a .22 Remington under the Christmas tree when I was 10.





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Daryl Corona 03-16-2017 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 214515)
Both mine, and Phil's are the rare Pre-64 model, long before the Yeoman model came out. These were engraved by famed engraver Stanislaw Kowalski

My bad. You never mentioned S. Kowalski as that upgrades it significantly.

I do have a permit for this class of 'Destructive Devise'.

Here in Md. you probably would.:banghead:

Rick Losey 03-16-2017 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 214546)
Same with my parents. I was never allowed to have a BB gun and for the same reasons, but like you, I had a .22 Remington under the Christmas tree when I was 10.
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I got to shoot real guns - and had a BB gun- we were trusted to roam around town with them - we had shooting contests and hunted pests, never had an injury or accidental shooting- BUT in our house, even toy guns had to be treated right, always had cap guns, no pointing them at each other - Dad made us wooden rifles that shot inner tube strips - but never at each other

I did the same thing with my kids - my son started shooting a .22 at 5, and had his own BB gun. He once kicked his best friend out of the house- i asked him why. he said his friend found his BB gun in his closet - picked it up without asking and was swinging it around. I asked him if it was loaded - he said of course not. he later gave his friend a safety lesson


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