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Josh Prahin 03-11-2017 10:03 PM

Need some input on a Trojan 16 gauge
 
Looking at picking up a Trojan 16 gauge. Would like some of the experts to chime in. Here is the link to the gun I'm looking at http://www.gunsinternational.com/gun...n_id=100770841
Hard to tell by the pics but from what you can see does this look like it's original ?

Dean Romig 03-11-2017 10:20 PM

Looks right as rain. Looks like the wood may have had a fresh coat of varnish but that doesn't detract from it.





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todd allen 03-11-2017 10:21 PM

That looks like a pretty nice Trojan. I don't see any issues with it.

Josh Prahin 03-11-2017 10:26 PM

Did the Trojans have the Parker Brothers stamp on the sides of the receivers or some not all ? I was told the gun dates 1915. Thanks for the input. This would be my first Parker

Brian Dudley 03-11-2017 10:44 PM

The stock on the gun appears to Have had the comb taken down to increase the amount of drop in it. That explains the new looking finish too. And the case colors are completely gone. Suggesting intentional removal.

All Trojans from introduction to the time of Remington takeover have the name engeaved on the sides.

Price is a bit high on this gun given the alterations to the gun.

Josh Prahin 03-12-2017 09:13 AM

Thanks for the info , I think I'm gonna pass on this one. I'd like to find one that is in original condition.

Dean Romig 03-12-2017 10:06 AM

It's a nice one.... unless you want a safe queen.






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David Holes 03-12-2017 10:18 AM

Brian is right on with the stock issues, the drop at heal looks extremely low even for a Trojan, I would not buy a shooter that I am unable to shoot well.

Josh Prahin 03-12-2017 10:38 AM

Not looking for a safe queen but I would like it to have the original stock dimensions

Rick Losey 03-12-2017 11:01 AM

you would be better off looking for one with YOUR stock dimensions

Bill Murphy 03-12-2017 11:54 AM

You need much more condition for this price.

todd allen 03-12-2017 12:29 PM

Well, this topic got me curious, so I went to the safe, and got out my all original 20 ga. Trojan #228335.
Mine measures as follows;
LOP to frt trigger - 14 1/8" DOC - 1 3/4" DOH - 2 3/4" (Same as the 16 in the ad)
I write this with the caveat that I am not an expert, but if I were in the market for a 16 ga. Trojan for the field, and the money wasn't a problem, I would buy this one. Wouldn't be the biggest mistake I ever made, and if it put a smile on my German shorthair pointers, it was well worth paying $200.00 too much.

Richard Flanders 03-12-2017 12:40 PM

Brian is correct; the comb has definitely been lowered and I think the receiver has been sanded a bit. You can see the marks on the one picture of the bottom. Pretty nice gun but definitely not all original and is definitely over priced(what a shock, eh?).

todd allen 03-12-2017 12:48 PM

I put Briley choke tubes in a 1900 model year H&H Royal Sidelock Ejector, and then proceeded to hunt North America with it for 20 years, so I have zero credibility when it comes to shotgun values. But my dogs think I'm a god.

Josh Prahin 03-12-2017 01:10 PM

Any other places to find a nice 16 gauge Parker besides gunbroker or guns international around $2k

todd allen 03-12-2017 03:15 PM

I don't think the 16 in question was that far off the mark. That's just my opinion, and I could be wrong.
I certainly wouldn't take a dime less than that for my 20.
Maybe you could make him an offer, I dunno. Unless your buying it to flip for a profit, just to shoot, chase quail, etc, I don't have a problem with the gun you posted.

Jerry Harlow 03-12-2017 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Prahin (Post 214123)
Any other places to find a nice 16 gauge Parker besides gunbroker or guns international around $2k

Here. Become a member and save your money. Honest descriptions and some really nice guns come through here available to members only, at good prices.

Bill Murphy 03-12-2017 05:12 PM

Yes, this website is the place to buy a Parker at a fair price unless you want to go to auctions. I have bought some wonderful lower grade Parkers on this site.

Phil Yearout 03-12-2017 06:33 PM

I paid less than half that for my 16ga Trojan; way high IMHO.

todd allen 03-12-2017 08:42 PM

I had no idea that you could get a nice 16 ga. Trojan for less than $1,000.00.
I stand corrected.

William Davis 03-12-2017 08:59 PM

Cut down stock would be a deal breaker for me. My 16 Trojan was untouched and 500 dollars less from a dealer. Did not think I bought it cheap, but it fit well and no mechanical problems. Way I see it no sense quibbling over a few hundred dollars, if the gun is right for you. If it's not right don't buy at any price .

William

Bill Jolliff 03-12-2017 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Prahin (Post 214123)
Any other places to find a nice 16 gauge Parker besides gunbroker or guns international around $2k

Josh,

As recommended above, the Classified's section for members occasionally has some nice Parker's for sale plus other nice doubles, accessories, etc.

Another great source to see and handle nice doubles is any of the classic side by side shoots that are held around the country.

The Southern in NC next month, the NE at Hausmann's in PA in early June and various others. Just check out the events section and watch for those topics elsewhere on the site.

Lots of nice doubles to look over.

John Allen 03-12-2017 10:01 PM

There was a 16ga Trojan at the Ohio Gun Collectors show this weekend.30% case colors,90% blue.28" barrels,looked all original.Could have been bought for $1600.A good rule of thumb is a 16 will bring twice the price of a 12 and a 20 will bring 3 times the price.

William Davis 03-13-2017 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by John Allen (Post 214174)
There was a 16ga Trojan at the Ohio Gun Collectors show this weekend.30% case colors,90% blue.28" barrels,looked all original.Could have been bought for $1600.A good rule of thumb is a 16 will bring twice the price of a 12 and a 20 will bring 3 times the price.


Thats a good rule of thumb, am looking for a 12 G Trojan for a friends Son now and expect to get a nice gun under 1000.

William


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