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choke gauge tool inquiry
Would like to purchase a quality and accurate choke gauge measuring tool. I have one from Galazan, the one that measures chamber length and choke but it is not accurate to my satisfaction on measuring chokes.
Is there a better tool out there? |
Hosford makes the Cadillac, CSMC makes one. Here's another at Brownells:
http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-to...-prod6808.aspx |
Allen, you do not need to spend nearly that much money. I found a gent in Montana who custom makes gauges. I have two, a 12/16 and a 20 gauge set and they are fantastic, for a very reasonable price. I know a few other folks here on the forum have ordered from him when I found him and they are very happy with there gauges also. Give him a call, he is a great guy. He is retired and make them at home in his machine shop. High quality and fast service. I bought the digital gauges. They are easy to use. And he uses stainless steel rods, not wood or plastic.
Gary Bulley 406-961-3311 Gauges built from 8" to 18" your preference dial type, $125 Digital type $175 |
Thanks Steve, I'll give him a call.
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A +1 on Gary's tools. I have two sizes
Just make sure you let him know has long to make them and which gauges you intend to use them on |
Thanks Rick, but could you explain your last sentence?
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Allen, I think he is saying just be sure Mr. Bulley knows what gauge you want, and the length of the rod that it is mounted on. :)
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That is what I get trying to hurry a response on the phone with fat fingers :rotf: |
Steve and Rick, if all I'm interested in doing is measuring chokes on my doubles, why with this Montana gents gauge would I need a rod on the gauge any longer than say 6 inches? Do his gauges serve other purposes that you use them for this needing a longer rod? This is a question from me who is a neophyte when it comes to mechanics etc. So pardon me for asking. And thanks
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Allen, you'll want the tool to be 15-16" long so that you can measure mean bore diameters. Simply knowing the choke diameter doesn't help until you can also know what the total constriction from true bore is.
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Thanks Edgar !
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As Edgar says
Choke is really the difference between the bore diameter and the constriction at the muzzle The weakness with the tapered/wedding cake devices is that they only measure the diameter of the muzzle and that they assume a standard bore size. So older bores which may not be modern standard, or back bored barrels will be off Bore gauges will tell you the true constriction and give you some idea if a choke has been modified IMHO. If you are going to buy the gauge anyway. Get it 15 to 18 inches long and you can measure the bore for free |
If your main interest is measuring chokes you may want to look at MSC for a gage which measures inside diameters from .375- 1.375". The gage is capable of measuring the last three inches of choke, is very accurate, and will accurately indicate how the choke is formed. It has a face similar to a dial indicator with 2 arms, 1 stationary and 1 which pivots. The gage is made in China and have had mine for nearly 2 decades and also use it for lathe work. I paid $75 through Enco at the time which became part of MSC recently.
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I have one of the Enco finger gauges mentioned above. It works fine on most Parker chokes but is limited to around 3". A few years back Dave Suponski offered Starrett inside diameter vernier calipers for sale here. They can measure to a depth of a bit over 5.5" and are accurate to .0001", I think. I couldn't get one fast enough. Not sure how large a diameter they'll measure but the smallest seems to be ~9/16"(.5625") so they're great for smaller bore guns of greater than .410. I'm not sure I've tried on on a 12ga or larger. Dave could likely give a better description. I do know I love this thing.
Looks like it actually can read to .001". Not sure. Dave, where are you?? Yes, it's .001" grads and has an official range of .575" - .750". I think you could measure a bit under the lower limit closely enough for choke measurements. This is not a gauge that Starrett currently offers. BTW: I got my PP yesterday. I was reading "my" article and concluded that the next time I need a resume, I'm getting Mike to write it! |
I have one of the Enco finger gauges mentioned above. It works fine on most Parker chokes but is limited to around 3". A few years back Dave Suponski offered Starrett inside diameter vernier calipers for sale here. They can measure to a depth of a bit over 5.5" and are accurate to .0001", I think. I couldn't get one fast enough. Not sure how large a diameter they'll measure but the smallest seems to be 9/16"(.5625") so they're great for smaller bore guns of greater than .410. I'm not sure I've tried on on a 12ga or larger. Dave could likely give a better description. I do know I love this thing.
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