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Mills Morrison 01-16-2017 10:47 AM

Earliest Hammerless Fishtail Parker
 
I am a fan of early hammerless Parkers and one thing I have observed in my searches is no fishtail toplevers on the really early hammerless guns (say, first two years). I was wondering if fishtails were not used on hammerless Parkers at first, when they were added and why, if that is the case. I have a fishtail in the 71xxx range. Does anybody have one earlier? Does anybody have one in the first two years?

Dave Suponski 01-16-2017 12:27 PM

Mills, I have 68805 with a fishtail.

Mills Morrison 01-16-2017 12:29 PM

I figured there would be some earlier than mine, but has anybody seen one below 60,000 or so?

Brian Dudley 01-16-2017 01:18 PM

Rick Losey... does your DH have a fishtail?

Rick Losey 01-16-2017 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 209660)
Rick Losey... does your DH have a fishtail?

No. But the PH does. I'll check the number

added

the PH is 70168 -

Rich Anderson 01-16-2017 05:48 PM

70253 Is a bit of an odd duck in the realm of Parker guns. It will show in the serialization book as a GH with no extras. It was sent back to Parker and fitted with SST, BTF with the reinforced lug, ejectors, straight stock even a skeleton butt. She's a Damascus barreled 16ga on an O frame.

edgarspencer 01-16-2017 06:01 PM

The fishtail top lever on a hammerless gun is somewhat of an anachronism. It's a holdover from the hammer gun days, where it's shape permitted opening the gun when the right hammer was cocked. My understanding of it's use on hammerless guns was simply to use up inventory. There is a certain ergonomic feel to it, but I doubt it's as much real as perceived.

Rick Losey 01-16-2017 06:04 PM

ergonomics smergonomics


it just looks cool

:cheers:

Jim DiSpagno 01-16-2017 06:10 PM

66346 &66635 both grade 2 hammerless have fishtail levers

edgarspencer 01-16-2017 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Losey (Post 209680)
ergonomics smergonomics


it just looks cool

:cheers:

Reminds me of Owen Wilson's nose

Jim DiSpagno 01-16-2017 07:37 PM

LOL. Edgar, you never disappoint

calvin humburg 01-16-2017 07:46 PM

Edgar!

Michael Moffa 01-18-2017 12:32 AM

BH 66,xxx with Fishtail, I have to open the safe to get the rest of the numbers.

charlie cleveland 01-18-2017 05:22 PM

0 grade 8 ga serail no 65142 and o grade 8 ga serial no 65145 both fish tails...charlie

Daryl Corona 01-18-2017 06:09 PM

Mills, DH 70658 w/ fishtail. I wish they all had them

Mills Morrison 01-18-2017 09:08 PM

I always assumed they were used on some hammer less guns from the beginning, but it looks like that was not the case. I know the old story about using up inventory but I wonder why they did not use them from the beginning of hammer less production?

I like them too. For some reason they look better on hammer less Parkers

Rick Losey 01-19-2017 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 209830)
but I wonder why they did not use them from the beginning of hammer less production?

most likely because they were still making hammer guns as well

using up inventory would not make sense until the original product was either stopped or at least reduced

PAUL PLUNKETT III 01-21-2017 05:28 AM

I have often wondered if it was a left handed thing. Myself being Left handed, I find it easier to operate the top lever. :corn:

Dennis E. Jones 01-25-2017 06:37 PM

From the responses the fishtail lever must have been quite common on early hammerless guns. Mine is a G grade 12 gauge #69848. Now I'm trying to remember if any of my hammer guns have one, I think not, but will have to check.

Mills Morrison 01-25-2017 06:40 PM

Nobody has listed one below 66,000 or so. I don't think they were used on the first hammerless Parkers

Tad Tadlock 01-26-2017 03:50 AM

I own # 61155. It is a Hammerless 10 gauge. It does not have a fishtail.


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