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Pigeon Ring at Yooper
If you have never seen a modern Pigeon Ring I hope these few shots will convey what this fast moving shoot it is all about.
1. Shooters call for the bird which is thrown with up to a 3 second delay 2. The trap is in a pit and unseen by the shooters 3. The trap rotates 360 degrees 4. The shooter has no idea if the bird will be a high loaping "in your face" target or a going directly away screamer! Then there are those left and right long range skeet targets 5. The trap is about 27 yards from the shooter 6. There is a orange ribbon taped inside each bird 7. After the bird is broken the orange ribbon must fall within the appoximately 35 yard wide and 45 yard long fenced "ring" Now, let's have some fun! Editors note: These photos will be replaced by the same in a larger format. http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_002.jpg Approaching one of the 2 pigeon rings http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_152.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_078.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_012.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_719.jpg The trap rotates in that 10' wide hole unseen by the shooters! That small orange thing is a ribbon falling inside the ring! http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_303.jpg Look close and you will see an orange ribbon taped inside a clay pigeon http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_334.jpg Eric Eis swings at a fast rising bird http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_335.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_336.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_337.jpg Now, it that orange ribbon will land in the ring. The wind would often blow a ribbon out or even into the ring! http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_350.jpg Rich Anderson about to dust a orange bearing bird! http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_351.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_352.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_377.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_378.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_639.jpg Read the scores and weep! |
My first pigeon ring- thanks for the details Cap'n!!
27 yards from each shooting stand to the center of the pit where the trap is hidden- Wow-ee- thanks the max. Handicap yardage at ATA Trapshoots- so if you get a going away straight on or quartering target- it could be 40 yards out when you get off the first shot-
This was my favorite of all the events at my first Yooper Shoot-at least they were std. targets which you could see- the grouse hunters probably did best on the stations 5-8 on the SC course- but I have never seen a teal spring up like those small rockets, nor a woodcock twist and turn like those flying razor blades- I used my Smith 2E with the 32" Nitro barrels and .040 choke in each tube-and Mark you are right, the incomers- an open choke or a spreader load, but the outgoers- Full choke for me- RST was out of spreader loads when I shot this event on Sunday- I hit 17/30 on the first ring in our squad, as did another squad member- and 19/30 on the second ring- BUT didn't win place or show because only about half of those I shattered had the ribbon land in the fenced ring- just as I have read about the real deal, if the bird drops out of the fence or the wind carries it over- LOST- I remembered to use the second tube on about half of my shots- not a problem when shooting Tower birds with that big cannon Elsie I am rather fond of--now I know you can actually use that second tube to smash the ribbon and drive it back inside the radius of the fence- next year I also liked the wobble traps and the pairs- didn't get to shoot 5 stand practice, always a big line waiting for that- now the two man hurry shoot- to my mind, that is like the Massachusetts Balloon Blast Sat before the fish and goose soire- fun and a lot of Bang-Bang but practical for real afield shooting conditions- Huum-- I had to use the 2E cannon there, as both my 12 GHE and 3E crapped out on me- a beavertail forearm would have been good, even with a heavy glove on my left hand, really warm barrels- I got off 51 shots in the 2.5 minute time frame and hit 37- tricky- practice with your loader/stuffer first- if the GHE and the 3E were functional I was going to try them as a "unmatched pair"- but after seeing the "Charlie-Foxtrot" number done on that peg by others trying that for the first time- well, the Keystone Kops came to mind- The best shoot since the MI Side-by-Side in April at Lapeer- great crowd, lotsa high end doubles from some fine and friendly vendors (Steve Cobb let me handle a MINT 12 Churchill XXV) and I am about as ready to finance a gun in that quality sphere as I am to kiss Hanoi Jane Fondle at the next VFW conclave--Jon Hosford was helping all that asked with his state-of-the art barrel wall gauging set-up, Jack Jansma donated the dinner award gun- a Spanish .410 ejector gun, an Ithaca collector had a oustanding display of the guns that made Walter Snyder famous-great food, fine weather, even the Sunday freight train(s) didn't delay things too much- Outstanding!!:bigbye: |
Okay, educate me please... what, pray tell, is a "Massachusetts Balloon Blast"??
.... just remember - 'there's no such thing as a stupid question - but, ...' :nono: |
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I don't know what a "Massachusetts Balloon Blast" is.
But the U.P. releases a bunch of balloons from behind a berm, and everyone lines up to shoot them. |
Mark thanks for the great pictures.
After dusting that target it's hard to believe the ribbon fell just outside of the ring....but it did. |
"Now, it that orange ribbon will land in the ring. The wind would often blow a ribbon out or even into the ring!"
And that is exactly what happened..... |
What is the orange ribbon made of? Is it that 1" surveyors tape? How large was the piece. Thanks Craig
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Richard, maybe it's because you " just dusted it " :banghead: as usual, instead of hitting it solid. :rotf:
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I'm glad Mark made the shoot and took some pictures of the pigeon ring. I've been trying to set one up for the Lapeer Shoot [ next one is July 17th ] . We have one, but it doesn't work reliable enough to use at a shoot. Hopefully I'll get some good ideas. Paul
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Dave, you ain't fooling me - we got a guy at our club who can insert things in pictures with these here computers - I've shot with Richard and know better. Paul
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The orange ribbion was indeed 1" surveyor's tape about 4" - 6" long but folded up inside the clay pigeon. I do have a close up of a box of taped pigeons that I'll post later.
Mark |
"4" to 6" long? Wow when I fired my second shot (to keep it in the ring) at that SOB it look like it was about an inch long....! And no I never did hit it to keep it in the ring
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Eirc,
The orange tape was folded and taped inside the clay pigeon. Perhaps some remained an inch long due to being stuck to the strapping tape that secured them to the pigeon. Others were "set free" and floated in the wind. I'm sure that I captured some those. In fact I shot over 800 photos of the pigeon ring shooting. If someone knows how to create a online file (like the old flip photos we had as kids) I shot many series at 5-10 FPS in JPEG medium (2M - 2.5M each photo) of Dave, Rich, you, and the Parker shooter looking at the score sheet (sorry, I forgot your name) shooting pigeons. Maybe that would be better suited for UTube? Mark |
That was me, Rich and Hanson (Randy) in that last photo looking at the score sheet. Would be fun to see some more images (but only the ones where we are breaking the targets...!)
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Well, that would certainly reduce the size of the file.....:corn: |
Mark: Thanks I look forward to the picture of the way the tape was taped on the underside of the clay. Craig
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Dean I want you and Dave S. up there next year, then we will see how well you fair at the pigeon ring.....:nono: Oh and we will also take you two out on Friday night so you can have an idea of what it's like in the UP....:rotf:
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Dean,
Do not go out with Rich, Dave, and Eric the night before a shoot!!! :nono: I had not seen anyone my age (actually they are all older than me) partake of so much since I was 25! They did however have a good time... Mark |
Tape- Schmape--
Whatever they used to weld on that tape- they needed some ballast- I saw two other squads shoot and twice the tape landed on top of the black plastic perimiter fence, tettered there a bit, then landed- now when I shot it on Sunday- the wind was from behind us and the 5 stands, so in a perfect world, it would have pushed the tape into the ring for a "killed"- but at the further perimeter up towards the sloping hill, the wind might have pushed it out of the fence and a "lost" call would ensue-
Paul, I'll be at your club on the 17th of July- wish you could get some live birds for a shoot as Chuck Connell used to- clays are OK, but I like to see a big ol cloud of feathers hangin' in the air as a dead and dying sky carper falls to the sod below-that's the real deal. I have three sisters living in the Eastern Seaboard- In DE each fall they have the "Punkin' Chunkin' contest, don't have one in Massachussetts, they used to have a Witches dunkin' derby I heard near Salem, perhaps the Balloon shoot was a tamer way for them to have fun. I heard from a club member that the ballons were imported from a large ballon making company out East- Mass is the old abbreviation for the Bay State is it not-?? Now I suppose it is MA thanks to old man Zippy Code- so when I got the flyer and saw Mass balloon shoot, I figured it was a salute to our founding fathers from Plymouth Rock--or B:bigbye::bigbye:edford?? who knew?? |
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Well Dave at least they don't have any photos of us on their Facebook page.:)
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This is a box for pigeons ready for the ring. http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_755.jpg This is what happen when one is hit properly. - These are not in focus... http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...onRing_756.jpg |
If they'd start throwing real pigeons in this ring I might consider going to the UP Shoot again....
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Not the Pigeon Ring... This is Francis Morin at the Yooper 2-man flurry. |
Behind the berm and a blastin' away
[quote=Dave Miles;20418]I don't know what a "Massachusetts Balloon Blast" is.
But the U.P. releases a bunch of balloons from behind a berm, and everyone lines up to shoot them. After the ballons they threw bits and pieces of clays up, lotsa fun- Next year I want them to have an ejector-distance tossing derby- I'll put the 2E Smith Pigeon Gun of mine against any other 12 ejector double- we stand on a marked line, fire at the Mass Balloons, and the judges mark where our ejected empties land-- Didn't partake of the local watering holes, didn't need to- as I became friends with a German-American retired engineer, first with Siemens and later Allis-Chalmers in Milwaukee- he and his most charming wife Utta had vacation property near Iron Mt.- now they live there year-round- he offered me cold Warsteiner, even a Cuban cigar- and I had the pleasure of sitting with him and his wife at the Sat. Banquet- No cold Leinie's or other Good German/American brews but lotsa cold Guinness, Harp and other fine Irish brews- Great Italian restaurants abound in Iron Mt.- Fri nite we went to one, had the all you could eat Walleye special- full whack for $7.95 (beer extra of course) and I knocked back 6 big fillets of fresh caught walleye- and my cardiologist ain't goona know about dat! Try Warsteiner ( W is as V auf Deutch) I love Leinie- but Warsteiner is truly, as the label states- "The Queen of Beers" Prost!!:cool::cool: |
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