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Mike Boldrick 12-10-2016 03:58 PM

28 Gauge Production Numbers
 
All;

I was wondering if anyone on the site could elaborate on the total number of 28 gauge guns made? If possible also by grade.

thanks
Mike

Bill Murphy 12-10-2016 04:07 PM

The Parker Story, Volume 1. "The Grades".

Dean Romig 12-10-2016 05:54 PM

1,112 total according to The Parker Story in the back of Vol II under "28 Gauge Shotguns" where all known 28-gauge serial numbers are listed.





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Bill Murphy 12-10-2016 06:18 PM

Thanks, Dean. That's easier than looking up the totals in the "Grades" section.

John Taddeo 12-10-2016 10:28 PM

I have a 28 listed in the serialization book but not the Parker story.... is there a reason for this???

Dean Romig 12-10-2016 11:16 PM

Okay... 1,113 then. Sorry John.

John Taddeo 12-11-2016 12:01 AM

I wasn't being sarcastic, just wondered if the serialization book was developed after the TPS or where the serial numbers were obtained.... that's all..

Dean Romig 12-11-2016 06:49 AM

No, I know you're not. I really don't have an answer. Perhaps Chuck can answer that, or maybe Bill Murphy. Or maybe Bill Mullins, one of the authors of The Parker Story. Charlie Price could also probably answer it but we don't hear much from Charlie lately. It was from Charlie's tables that the Serialization book was developed.





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Chuck Bishop 12-11-2016 08:50 AM

John, the database compiled by the authors of TPS from the Remington records was what was used to publish the S & I book. The S & I book is mainly made up from the stock books but also included guns D and higher found in the order books but were missing from the stock books we don't have. Give me the S/N and I'll tell you if the gun is listed in either the stock or order book. Most likely it was just a mistake and the S/N was not included in TPS list of 28 ga. guns.

John Taddeo 12-11-2016 09:23 AM

Thank you Chuck, I have a PGCA letter on the Gun which made me wonder where the numbers for TPS were initially found.. Thanks..

Bill Murphy 12-11-2016 10:09 AM

The authors "did their best" to find 28 gauge, 8 gauge, and high grade guns as they scanned the order books. However, they probably missed a few. The stock books were easier to negotiate, with more legible content. They probably didn't miss anything in the stock book entries. The main intent of the authors was to list stock book entries. The original PGCA research committee completed the copying of the order books, but did not compile any production totals.

Craig Budgeon 12-11-2016 10:28 AM

Parkers,at the end of the Rainbow, DVD shows a 20GA. A1 Special that went back for 28GA. barrels and additional fore end. I dare say that that wasn't the only 20GA. sent back to the factory for 28GA barrels.

Kevin McCormack 12-11-2016 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Budgeon (Post 206904)
Parkers,at the end of the Rainbow, DVD shows a 20GA. A1 Special that went back for 28GA. barrels and additional fore end. I dare say that that wasn't the only 20GA. sent back to the factory for 28GA barrels.

Indeed - there is an AHE 20/28 gauge that was exhaustively documented as having had the 0-frame 28 ga. barrels added, probably by Remington, immediately after WW II.

Rich Anderson 12-11-2016 12:58 PM

Kevin do you know if that 20/28 might have started out as a 16ga Damascus barreled gun?

Dean Romig 12-11-2016 05:03 PM

And then there is 150677 originally ordered as a two gauge (20/28) two-barrel set.





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Eric Eis 12-12-2016 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin McCormack (Post 206907)
Indeed - there is an AHE 20/28 gauge that was exhaustively documented as having had the 0-frame 28 ga. barrels added, probably by Remington, immediately after WW II.

Yes Rich, that is the gun. Kevin and Babe D. went over the whole gun and wrote a report of their thoughts on the gun. It started it's life as a 16 ga Damascus 30" barrels with ejectors and it was sent back to Remington just after the war to be fitted with "modern" 20 and 28 ga barrels. Wish I could find a set of 16 ga Damascus barrels .............:crying:

Craig Budgeon 12-12-2016 02:07 PM

The A1Special I thought was a 20 GA. sent back for 28 GA. barrels was actually a 28 GA (180xxx) sent back to Remington for 410 barrels.

Harold Lee Pickens 12-15-2016 07:43 PM

So ,LongBird(Mike's nickname on the sporting clays range), is there a Parker 28 coming to Wheeling??


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