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Scot Cardillo 10-24-2016 10:17 PM

Parker Reproduction Goodies
 
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Going through the safe I took notice of two distinctly different PR manuals which reside.

Of the other copies I have - the bottom one differs.

I believe I have done been hornswoggled..did I get a reproduction of a Reproduction?

How do yours compare?

Kenny Graft 10-25-2016 05:55 AM

I have seen a few reproduction owner books, they are on smooth plain type paper and do not have the rugged pressed look of the originals heavy stock cover and back. Its very easy to spot one from the other. SXS Ohio

Bob Jurewicz 10-25-2016 06:49 AM

Bottom one looks like it could be a repro. Little too tall and border lines not found on originals that I have.

Scot Cardillo 10-25-2016 07:04 AM

It is made of heavy card stock and does have the pressed texture similar to all others I have (which are identical to the top manual).

Not sure it's relevant but it did come w/one of the guns that has an "F" lug stamp. (28ga)

George M. Purtill 10-25-2016 07:29 AM

I'm jealous- I have none.
The lower one is not a copy of the upper so someone would have to go to a lot of work to make up a whole new one instead of simply making a good copy.

Dean Romig 10-25-2016 07:38 AM

Why would anyone make a reproduction of a catalog that has minimal collector value?

Could they be early and late versions?





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George M. Purtill 10-25-2016 07:52 AM

That seems logical Dean.

Scot Cardillo 10-25-2016 07:59 AM

Dean - that's somewhat my sentiment as well.

Although I am a fan of the PR & although much paper is in fact reproduced - I would not have guessed that the manual would have yet reached the level of collectibility in order to make reproduction worth the time.

I know the trade labels have been reproduced, but of course there's a practical need for such so that's moot.

My guess ~ just a different version whether that be early or late.

The depiction of the gun in the bottom photo has no detail whatsoever, more of an inkblot image.

Greg Baehman 10-25-2016 09:30 AM

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Speaking of early vs. late . . . here's what is believed to be the earliest and very first Parker Reproduction brochure. You will notice that nowhere in the brochure are the guns referred to as a Parker Reproduction (with a capital P and capital R), but rather, in this particular brochure only, they are called The Parker Gun or The Parker Gun by Winchester. You may also notice that the brochure mentions that the gun was available with a SSBP or DHBP. It's assumed that Tom Skeuse subsequently named the guns Parker Reproductions in order to get around the naming rights protected by Remington.

Dean Romig 10-25-2016 09:41 AM

Very nice pictures Greg, thanks. That explanation of the "Parker Reproduction" makes perfect sense.





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Scot Cardillo 10-25-2016 10:01 AM

Figured you would be along to take us to school Greg, thanks for the pics.

Interesting that Kenny has seen repros of the Repros..would that constitute a repo :duck:

Robin Lewis 10-25-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Scot Cardillo (Post 204114)
Going through the safe I took notice of two distinctly different PR manuals which reside.

Of the other copies I have - the bottom one differs.

I believe I have done been hornswoggled..did I get a reproduction of a Reproduction?

How do yours compare?

Other than the covers, are they identical?

Scot Cardillo 10-25-2016 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robin Lewis (Post 204145)
Other than the covers, are they identical?

Off to try and scare up a Pheasant or ten w/pup for the day tommorrow..I'll give it a close look when we get back.

George M. Purtill 10-25-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Baehman (Post 204134)
Speaking of early vs. late . . . here's what is believed to be the earliest and very first Parker Reproduction brochure. You will notice that nowhere in the brochure are the guns referred to as a Parker Reproduction (with a capital P and capital R), but rather, in this particular brochure only, they are called The Parker Gun or The Parker Gun by Winchester. You may also notice that the brochure mentions that the gun was available with a SSBP or DHBP. It's assumed that Tom Skeuse subsequently named the guns Parker Reproductions in order to get around the naming rights protected by Remington.

Thanks for sharing Greg.

Bill Murphy 10-25-2016 07:04 PM

Wouldn't I love to find one of the DHBP 28 gauges?

George M. Purtill 10-25-2016 07:42 PM

Bill
You will find it if it exists. However maybe it's just my imagination but I think there are several things they put in the catalogs that were never produced.

edgarspencer 10-25-2016 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 204171)
Wouldn't I love to find one of the DHBP 28 gauges?

It's buried in a pile of unicorn poop.

Phillip Carr 10-25-2016 09:23 PM

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I found this awhile back. Not much for value but letter came with the brochure.
http://parkerguns.org/forums/attachm...1&d=1477444858

Phillip Carr 10-25-2016 09:25 PM

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http://parkerguns.org/forums/attachm...1&d=1477445073

George M. Purtill 10-26-2016 09:02 AM

Thanks Phil for sharing.

This is a request or question directed to our librarian Robin Lewis: I know that we have on our website copies of SOME Parker Reproduction literature, Do we have or can we create a chronological listing of the brochures and catalogues?

I have acquired a couple but I cant even tell what year they are.

Robin Lewis 10-26-2016 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by George M. Purtill (Post 204209)
Thanks Phil for sharing.

This is a request or question directed to our librarian Robin Lewis: I know that we have on our website copies of SOME Parker Reproduction literature, Do we have or can we create a chronological listing of the brochures and catalogues?

I have acquired a couple but I cant even tell what year they are.

"librarian"?

Yes, all the Parker Reproduction paper I have seen has been placed in the "Parker Grades" section of our web site. As far as their cronology, I have no idea about that. I think that would take some research within Winchester or the Skeuse family.

Maybe Richard Skeuse will chime in on this for you?

Ronald Moore 10-26-2016 02:30 PM

reproduction book
 
Where can I find one of these books?, I need one for my gun.

Ron Moore
505-980-6018

Greg Baehman 10-26-2016 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronald Moore (Post 204233)
Where can I find one of these books?, I need one for my gun.

Ron Moore
505-980-6018

Assuming you're referring to a Parker Reproduction Owner's Manual you can see one online here: (Start with the last pic and work your way back through the pages by clicking on 'Previous Picture').

http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.php?albumid=655

Others have obtained a hard copy by placing a WTB ad on our PGCA Members Only Forum. I have also seen them listed for sale from time-to-time via other venues such as eBay or gunbroker.com . . . just like the guns, they are where you find them.

Scot Cardillo 10-27-2016 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Robin Lewis (Post 204145)
Other than the covers, are they identical?

No discernible difference between the two with respect to content.


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