2016 Vintage Gunners Cup Update and Vendors
 

Hello All,

For those interested, the Vintage Gunners Cup (September 23 – 25, 2016) is fast approaching.

Along with the main Championship event on Sunday, shotgun events (hammerless and hammer gun) will be held in all gauges from 10 through .410. Also, an American Classics competition, one and two-man flurry events, a ladies two-woman team competition, and a black powder competition will also be held.

Rifle competitions will include: Stalking rifle (both single shots and double rifle),
Black Powder/ BPE with gauge and bore guns (single and double rifle),
9.3 x 74R Classic Side x Side rifle event,
Stopping rifle (for single-shot and side-by-side rifles),
Super Stopping, Drilling, and Cape Gun.

For more information, contact Hopkins Game Farm at:
P.O. Box 218
Kennedyville, MD 21645
Phone: 410.348.5287
Email: hopkinshunting@gmail.com
Web: http://www.hopkinshunting-clays.com/

Or visit the Vintage Gunners website at: http://vintagers.org/home

Entrance to the vendor and exhibitor tents is free. Among the vendors and exhibitors who will be at the Vintage Gunners Cup are:

Steve Barnett Fine Guns

Charles Boswell Gunmakers

Stephen Cobb Quality Guns

Covey Rise Magazine

Ermilo Clothiers

MacNab Fine Firearms

RST - Classic Shotshell Co., Inc.

Russell Moccasin Co.

The Virginia Sportsman

William Larkin Moore & Sons

Dubarry of Ireland

Vintage Doubles

Covey Rise Magazine

Geoffroy Gournet, Master Engraver

Wingshooting Adventures

Robin Hollow Outfitters

Ball and Buck

Bird Dog Bay

German Gun Collectors Association

…and more!

I'm not interested:nono:

No interest.

I wonder why RST can't set up at both venues?






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Even if I could go (ankle surgery) I would not be interested.

The real SxS shooters will be in NEPA in Sept.:bigbye:

With this weather we've been having, the mere thought of trying to shoot dressed in my Harris Tweeds while sweat pours down my cheek onto my nice hammer gun gives me nightmares. I think Rock Mountain sounds just fine.

ditto the above. Pa works for me.

Matt,

Thank you for posting this info.

I look forward to the Vintage Gunners Cup and cant wait. I hope I get the chance to meet you.

All my best and see ya in September.

John Truitt

If I could walk, I would be up for both events. However, my allegiance is to Mike and Rock Mountain. Good luck to the promoters of both events. Vintage Gunners leader, Gary Lacey, is a long time shooting buddy when we were shooting International Skeet. Maybe this scheduling snafu will not happen again.

I'll be there...looking forward to it.

Kevin, Kevin, Kevin..... We need to talk.

15 minute drive for me....how could I possibly miss it?

Easy. Come with me, I'll drive, and I'll promise you some fine cigars, good bourbon and one of the best courses you'll ever shoot.

What don't you guys understand about BOTH?

Huh?

Kevin, Daryl, Friday at the Vintager's, all the vendors will be in place. Saturday and Sunday at Mike's for the outstanding trophies and vendors. You guys have seen the Vintager's trophies, eh? Not a postive comment when compared to the Koneski trophies.

Got it. But I'm still going to Mike's.

Daryl, I didn't mention the Vintager's trophies as a positive comment. Koneski's trophies are outstanding compared to anyone elses.

I got that Bill, but going to Hopkins to just see the vendors would be supporting that shoot. All the major collector organizations will be at Mike's so that's where my allegiance is. Besides, Mike gives me that warm and fuzzy feeling. George, not so much.:)

I wish Rich and I could make this shoot this year, but it's not in the cards for either us this year. But if it was, we would only be going to Mike's because he was the first one to setup up this shoot on this date, period. The Vintagers do not "own" this weekend, that they abandoned for the last couple of years. Now they want to split a very small community of SxS shooters because of their egos, and not for the betterment of the shooting SxS community. I thought the original concept of the Vintagers was to bring awareness to the shooting fraternity about SxS guns and shooting. Guess I got that wrong...

OK, so the dates are the same next year too. What a tragedy. I was told today that George Hopkins had a ten dollar five stand that some of my shooting buddies said was a great alternative to the "competition" events. Can we hear more about the bargain events at both venues? Some are apparently becoming weary of the trophy events and want to shoot some targets, volume targets, for less money. How about a multitude of five stands? Everyone likes cheap practice five stands. The PGCA guys are deserting the competition events at the Spring Southern to go to Drake's Landing. The writing is on the wall. No one is impressed with dollar birds for four days straight. I'm sure the vendors were a bit stressed about the thin crowds, too. I know vendors who left on Saturday from the events, a first in our "sport". Vendors, shooters, it's your move. Maybe one or more of the greedy promoters will get the message and begin to cooperate.

I don't know any "greedy promoters" at Rock Mountain, Hausmann's Hidden Hollow, Addieville East Farm, or any of the venues I've attended in the last five or six years.

Maybe I don't get out much...?






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Me either Dean.

I will add this, if we don't attend and support these events, regardless of whether they are at Rock Mtn, Hopkins Game Farm, Deep River, Hausemanns or any of the other big SxS venues, these events will go away. Don't "hear", go see. ---Matt

Mike, my terminology may have indicated that I am addressing "greedy promoters" in reference to you, Ernie, and others who have pleased us for decades. I was and am only referring to the Vintagers promoters who doubled up on the dates this year. Someone mentioned that the two shoots share a date in 2017 again. I hope he is mistaken. Mike, I am firmly on your side in this situation. Thanks for the private message.

Thanks for that clarification Bill.





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I personally think that charging $600 to $800 for a vendor booth consisting of a couple tables is a little "greedy".

When the going rate at most gun shows is under $100 per table.

And i am not talking about Mike or Ernie. Their table prices are VERY fair.

And though $1.00 per bird targets can seem high, it is in line with what every other event charges, so it simply is what it is.

I'm not one out to shoot for score and as mentioned on another thread there are lots of us who just like to shoot for the sake of shooting. I don't need a belt buckle, Hell I could only see it in a mirror anyway:rotf:
With travel, lodging etc. The Rock would have been a thousand dollar week IF I didn't buy anything. It would be nice to do a venue where you could shoot just for the fun of shooting both targets and the bull with friends. IMHO I think this is one reason our spring outing at Drakes has grown so much.
I think a competition rate and a fun rate would be welcome by all shooters. I'd rather shoot 100 targets for fun than 50 for competition.

I agree Rich, that would be nice.

I am not a great shooter and most times I don't bother to keep score. I enjoy each shot for its singular challenge. I know months before any shooting event that I have exactly no chance of winning, or even being in the top ten. So I go to enjoy a round or two and hang with friend that I have made over the years at these events. I like to socialize, watch the people and look at "eye candy" in the tents. Obviously, for me it's not the competition that attracts me to these double gun events.