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allen newell 04-12-2016 06:58 PM

How many DHE 31 inch barrels made?
 
I have a lettered 12 ga Parker DHE that apparently and according to the letter on the gun was originally made with Damascus barrels but was returned to Parker and re-barreled with 31 inch Titanic Steel barrels. All serial numbers match and Walter Krug's stamp is on the replacement barrels.

My question is do we know how many DHE's were produced with 31 inch barrels?

How rare would this configuration be?

Dave Suponski 04-12-2016 07:38 PM

Allan, Check The Parker Story.

allen newell 04-12-2016 07:57 PM

Dave, according to The Parker Story, Vol 1, page 291, for DH grade hammerless guns with Titanic Steel Barrels, Parker produced a total of 6,330 12 ga guns of which only 7 were made with 31 inch barrels.

I assume these numbers do not include DH grade guns that were re-barreled after initial purchase. Still, quite rare I would say.

Rick Losey 04-12-2016 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allen newell (Post 193046)
I assume these numbers do not include DH grade guns that were re-barreled after initial purchase.

that is a safe assumption

but I would bet rebarrels at that length would be equally unusual

allen newell 04-12-2016 09:14 PM

Thanks Rick, so I guess I have a rare DHE. Learn something new every day. I've been using it on five stand and sporting clays.

Rick Losey 04-12-2016 09:21 PM

Sounds like a good use for it

allen newell 04-12-2016 09:23 PM

I would like to take it out to South Dakota and use on pheasants

Rick Losey 04-12-2016 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allen newell (Post 193054)
I would like to take it out to South Dakota and use on pheasants

Well heck

I'D LIKE To take it to South Dakota and shoot pheasants
:rotf:

charlie cleveland 04-12-2016 09:59 PM

me too....that is a unusal barrel lentgh...nice find...charlie

Mills Morrison 04-14-2016 02:39 PM

I have one that is 30 1/2, although it did not start off that way. It is a fun clays gun

allen newell 04-14-2016 02:48 PM

Mills, was it cut down at some point?

Mills Morrison 04-14-2016 02:50 PM

The barrels were originally 32". It is not the prettiest gun in the world, but it is a good shooter

allen newell 04-14-2016 02:56 PM

Why would someone take a half inch off the barrels? Were they messed up? What am I missing?

Mills Morrison 04-14-2016 02:57 PM

I do not know. My guess is there was some damage to the end of the barrels

edgarspencer 04-14-2016 04:41 PM

Allen, How long were the original damascus barrels ? TPS says there were only seven 31" damascus barrelled guns (12ga.) and seven 31" Titanic guns. Quite the coincidence.

allen newell 04-14-2016 05:29 PM

Edgar, I wish I knew that answer. The letter on it only says that the gun was originally fitted with Damascus barrels and the gun was returned to Parker to be fitted with titanic steel barrels 31 inches. I'm not home right now, headed into Boston, tomorrow I'll check the book
, don't think it was listed, but I'll recheck

Bill Murphy 04-14-2016 06:09 PM

Odd length barrels are a collector's dream, but not an easy collector category to fill your gun safe with. These guns are hard to find and even harder to pay for if the seller realizes the rarity of the gun he is selling. I have been lucky in finding a few oddities, but some weren't the prettiest guns, but, oddly, some were wonderful. Most have been displayed and shot at PGCA meetings and Side by Side events, so most of mine have been seen by our members. The one gun I would most like to finish and shoot is my "One of One Made" 30" eight gauge DH Grade which weighs less than ten pounds. This may turn out to be my favorite heavy bird gun.

Bill Murphy 04-14-2016 06:16 PM

Odd length barrels are a collector's dream, but not an easy collector category to fill your gun safe with. These guns are hard to find and even harder to pay for if the seller realizes the rarity of the gun he is selling. I have been lucky in finding a few oddities, but some weren't the prettiest guns, but, oddly, some were wonderful. Most have been displayed and shot at PGCA meetings and Side by Side events, so most have been seen by our members. The one gun I would most like to finish and shoot is my "One of One" 30" eight gauge DH Grade which weighs less than ten pounds. This may turn out to be my favorite heavy bird gun.

allen newell 04-14-2016 06:52 PM

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I'll try to up load a few pics of this DHE from my cell phone

allen newell 04-14-2016 06:53 PM

When I get home I'll do more research and post a few more pics.

charlie cleveland 04-14-2016 07:29 PM

i have a 20 ga v grade gun with 27 inch barrels that have the thing at the end of the barrels that tell you the barrels have not been cut...the records on it have been lost..i tried for a letter but no go...it is a good squirl gun...charlie

allen newell 04-15-2016 03:28 PM

Edgar et al, the ser # for this DHE w/31 inch barrels is 136234 and shows in the serialization book as a D3 grade (Damascus) with 30 inch barrels. The Letter that I have on it states that it was returned to Parker and re-barreled with 31 inch Titanic Steel barrels. All serial numbers throughout match including the serial number on the steel barrels which also have Walter King's stamp on the barrel flats. So it was clearly a Parker re-barreling. Gun was made in 1905. Barrel weight is 4 lbs 6 oz. #2 frame. Other stamps on the barrel flats include (T) for Titanic and 44 which eludes me. Anyone know what 44 means? Bottom line is: Originally a Damascus barreled DHE and subsequently re-fitted with Titanic barrels 31 inches in length. So I guess you could add one more 31 inch 12 ga DHE to the total produced by Parker. Still somewhat unusual configuration. A dream to shoot sporting clays with too!


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