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tom tutwiler 03-21-2016 06:58 PM

Worth a shot
 
Posted this elsewhere but maybe someone here might have such a thing. Looking for a nice picture of a ejector forearm for a Fox small bore with the snap on forearm. Either an A or B grade model. Only the first few hundred small graded guns had the snap on forearm and most of those weren't ejector models, but one can dream someone might have one stuck in a safe somewhere. PM or post would be fine. PS. I've come across C, D and X, but nothing in a grade A or B, which is what I'm looking for. Thanks mucho.

Brian Dudley 03-21-2016 07:21 PM

Tom,
Contact Wayne Goerres here on the forum. Or he may see this and chime in. I am pretty sure he has an AE grade 20g with a snap on forend.

wayne goerres 03-21-2016 07:30 PM

And Brian would be correct. Give me a little time and I will take a picture for you.

wayne goerres 03-21-2016 07:44 PM

fox forearm
 
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Here is the pic's you requested.

tom tutwiler 03-21-2016 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wayne goerres (Post 191376)
And Brian would be correct. Give me a little time and I will take a picture for you.


Would be super indeed. Thanks much. Regards, Tom

Dave Noreen 03-22-2016 02:25 PM

The snap-on/-off forearms either the Fox & Kremer or the F.T. Russell Patents seem to have remained in use through at least the first 600 20-gauges and at least the first 500 16-gauges, well into the Gough style engraving on the A-/AE- and B-/BE-Grades. I have recorded a couple of very early 20-gauges with Deeley lever forearms. I too have pictures of CE-, XE- and DE-grade escutcheons in smallbore forearms, but don't have an AE- or BE-Grade either early or Gough style.

tom tutwiler 03-22-2016 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 191476)
The snap-on/-off forearms either the Fox & Kremer or the F.T. Russell Patents seem to have remained in use through at least the first 600 20-gauges and at least the first 500 16-gauges, well into the Gough style engraving on the A-/AE- and B-/BE-Grades. I have recorded a couple of very early 20-gauges with Deeley lever forearms. I too have pictures of CE-, XE- and DE-grade escutcheons in smallbore forearms, but don't have an AE- or BE-Grade either early or Gough style.

I went to an auction two years ago in the Northern Neck of Va and saw an early AE with two sets of barrels (20 gauge) that had the A grade Escutcheon. Unfortunately the gun was trashed and I didn't bid on it nor did I take a picture of the forearm.

Greg Baehman 03-22-2016 05:04 PM

In Tom Kidd's article in the DGJ Vol. 1 Issue 2 pgs. 83 & 84 pics of the thirtienth 20-ga. BE produced are shown. It has a snap-on forend, but the escutcheon engraving is hard to make out.

wayne goerres 03-22-2016 07:10 PM

I to have two sets of barrels but Brian and I added the second set. It is an extractor set and a slight modification to the second forearm had to be made. The extractor barrels work perfectly.

tom tutwiler 03-23-2016 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Baehman (Post 191488)
In Tom Kidd's article in the DGJ Vol. 1 Issue 2 pgs. 83 & 84 pics of the thirtienth 20-ga. BE produced are shown. It has a snap-on forend, but the escutcheon engraving is hard to make out.

I've got quite a few DGJ in the inventory. Not sure about that one. I'll check this evening.

Paweł Janusz 03-23-2016 09:34 PM

Need to make missing part?

tom tutwiler 03-24-2016 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Paweł Janusz (Post 191634)
Need to make missing part?

No, I'm having a Sterlingworth Ejector gun upgraded to an Early BE grade (second generation engraving). Trying to get a good digital picture of the engraved escutcheon.

Greg Baehman 03-24-2016 09:06 AM

Does what you're looking for Tom, even exist? I would think that any smallbore BE with a snap-on forend would have the early first-generation style engraving.

tom tutwiler 03-24-2016 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Baehman (Post 191678)
Does what you're looking for Tom, even exist? I would think that any smallbore BE with a snap-on forend would have the early first-generation style engraving.

I think it does. I've seen snap on Forearms with Second Generation B engraving, but they weren't ejector models. Needle in a haystock but I think they do exist.

Here's a picture of a Snap on B grade small bore, but its an non ejector model:


http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...psybruv35w.jpg

Greg Baehman 03-24-2016 09:25 AM

Well I'll be a son-of-a-gun, that's a first for me. Thanks for showing.

wayne goerres 03-24-2016 08:49 PM

The photo of the forearm I posted is off of a all nos matching 1915 AE grade 20ga. I beleave the engraving on the gun is considered the later style.

tom tutwiler 03-25-2016 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wayne goerres (Post 191743)
The photo of the forearm I posted is off of a all nos matching 1915 AE grade 20ga. I beleave the engraving on the gun is considered the later style.

That A grade escutcheon appears to be almost identical to a Sterlingworth ejector escutcheon. Maybe that was the norm for the A grades. Appears I'll just have to have Gournet figure out what works best and leave it up to him. This isn't his first rodeo for sure.

Brian Dudley 03-25-2016 06:48 AM

He is good at that.


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