What is it?
 

Do not look the number up, notice the P stamped on the water table,

Looks like a 16 or 20 gauge Grade 1 T/A with the check-hook and lightening cuts on the water table. Oh, and its a very late hammer gun.

Are the barrels Twist Steel?





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I know! I know! I know the answer, I've got my hand up teacher! :whistle: Please call on me!

:biglaugh:...... Chuck - he said NO LOOKING AT THE BOOKS!!! :rotf:






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Damn:banghead:

It's an O frame so probably a 20 or 16. I agree with Dean that's it a T/A hammer gun but that's a no brainer being one of Garys guns. I bet it has twist barrels. The P referring to PT plain twist.

Actually, with the advent of the Vulcan nomenclature, a P grade was considered a grade 1 and the Vulcan an "0" grade if I'm not mistaken and plain twist barrels had long since been discontinued and Parker Twist was the name used.

You guys are getting warm, gary

What is it
 

Lets take a look at the buttplate

Looks sorta like this one in my thread...

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...t=15434&page=3

Could it be the only known 28 ga. Parker hammer gun? We know the 28 ga. Parkers were produced before that serial number.





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John, It is close but unfortunately it does not have steel barrels like the one in your photo

The reason I posted this gun is to try to find out the grade, The serial book says 0 grade, the gun is stamped P for a grade one, the barrels are twist and the barrel flats are so marked, I have sent for a letter, we shall see, Gary

Come on Gary - give it up, what is it? A lightened 1-frame 12 gauge?






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grade
 

Flats

No matter how you slice it Gary, a P is a grade-1. But Twist Steel barrels were used on both grade-0 and hammer less grade-1 guns.






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I have a 16 hammer gun and I don't know for sure if its a grade 1 or an 0 grade either. It looks a lot like this less the condition but in it's defense it has 32 inch barrels.

So Gary is it a 16ga or a 20ga????????

Marked "P" is scarce in hammer guns, but it has been seen. Austin's #3 frame 12 gauge lifter is marked "P". These are grade 1 guns. Gary's gun is late for a small gauge top lever gun, or any top lever gun, but not as late as my Grade 2 top lever 16 #172,662, the last one. Odd that some of these late smallbore hammer guns have such heavy barrels.

Not really, when you think about the fact that Parker, like most of the major pipe organ manufacturers of the day, always opted to use up "existing stocks" of tubes rather than turn new ones.

It is a twenty gauge, top lever, Kevin I think you hit the nail on the head with reference to barrels and use of existing stock! Gary

The hammerless Grade 1 guns were still fitted with Twist Steel barrels then so it would only make sense that an exposed hammer Grade 1 would use the same barrels.






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