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Phillip Carr 10-24-2015 03:43 PM

First 1 1/2 frame
 
Can anyone tell me when the first 1 1/2 frame Parker was built?

charlie cleveland 10-24-2015 04:37 PM

phil are you getting tierd of toteing that big 8 ga...charlie

Bill Murphy 10-24-2015 04:45 PM

Only Chuck Bishop can tell you. Maybe not, though, since frame sizes noted in stock books came a bit later if I recall right.

Phillip Carr 10-24-2015 04:48 PM

Charlie it does get a little heavy at times. When I need a break I take the W C Scott it weighs a pound less. LOL.
I noticed today, my DH made in 1896 is on a 1 1/2 frame.

Brian Dudley 10-24-2015 05:06 PM

They were making guns on the 1-1/2 frame in the 1890s. I can tell you that.

Dean Romig 10-24-2015 05:11 PM

The Parker Story references a known 1898 gun with the 1 1/2 frame size so if yours is truly a 1896 gun with athe 1 1/2 frame size it may certainly be or be one of the very first Parkers made on that frame size.





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Phillip Carr 10-24-2015 06:57 PM

Dean this is my first Parker and the one I reference in the Dog/Parker story I forwarded to you. I had never noticed until today that it was on a one and a half frame, also one of only a dozen DH's mentioned in the Parker Story with the first Vulcan Steel barrels.

Dean Romig 10-24-2015 07:11 PM

I received the pictures today Phil - That's one very interesting DH for sure!






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John Gardner 10-28-2015 04:42 AM

I pcked up a CH 1 1/2 frame made in 1895 a couple years ago. I'd have to check the letter for details.

Jeff Bonadurer 10-28-2015 12:36 PM

Hi Phil,

My DH was produced in 1895. It's a 1 1/2 frame size.

Best regards,

Jeff Bonadurer

Phillip Carr 10-28-2015 12:43 PM

Thanks John and Jeff. It appears so far that 1895 is the earliest so far. Thank you for sharing.

Mills Morrison 10-28-2015 02:38 PM

The earliest one here would be a good candidate for Parkers Found.

Phillip Carr 10-28-2015 02:55 PM

Great idea.

Chuck Bishop 10-28-2015 03:33 PM

Parker as a general rule, didn't put frame sizes in the order books. I think I remember a few notes on the frame but very few. The same is true in the stock books up until 1925. Parker changed the type of register they used and it included a column for frame sizes. On the 12ga. generally a 1 frame would weigh in the high 6 pound to low 7 pound range. 1 1/2 frames would be from 7 to the mid 7 pound range, and the 2 frame would be from the high 7 pounds to the 8 pound range. Of course there are exceptions due to barrel length and denser wood. Trojans were on the 2 frame and they seem to be in the 7 pound range from the few pages I've looked at.

Frank Cronin 10-28-2015 05:49 PM

My GH 82003 1 1/2 frame was built in 1895. Last I looked in the Parker's Found my serial number is earlier than the one listed.

Phillip Carr 10-29-2015 12:34 AM

You have me beat my DH S/N is 82226

John Gardner 10-29-2015 02:02 AM

Me too I have 82331

allen newell 11-03-2015 06:56 PM

My GH is 74843, 1894 Frame size is 1 w/32 inch barrels

FRANK HALSEY 11-04-2015 04:56 PM

EARLY 1 FRAME
 
I just got a DH uplifter that has a 1 frame mark on the barrels number to the gun serial number 26101. What is the earliest 1 frame? Anyone have a guess? Frank

Jim DiSpagno 11-04-2015 05:08 PM

Got one with a four digit serial number, will post it when I get home tomorrow night

Dean Romig 11-04-2015 05:15 PM

Yes, the 1-Frame goes all the way back to when Parker Bros. first began to make standardized frame sizes.

On the earliest ones the 1 may have not been stamped on the barrel lug but you can bet the pin separations were standardized.






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Mills Morrison 11-04-2015 05:18 PM

Yes, I would think the first 1 frame would be pretty early. I remember seeing an early 11 gauge on a 0 frame, of all things.

Dean Romig 11-04-2015 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 180983)
I remember seeing an early 11 gauge on a 0 frame, of all things.



I think I would like to witness in sixteenths of an inch the firing pin separation on that one :shock:






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