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J. Melvin Moore 08-30-2015 06:52 PM

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Guys, look at Gunbroker item number 504213891 at pictures 8-9-10. Are the barrels the same or is it just me?

Dave Noreen 08-30-2015 07:05 PM

Look like typical Twist barrels to me. My question would be why they have all those FFL requirements on a gun that is an antique? If I was home I'd go look at it.

Brian Dudley 08-30-2015 07:28 PM

The FFL requirements might just be boilerplate requirements for all the sellers auctions.

I guess I am missing what the original posters question is?

J. Melvin Moore 08-30-2015 07:34 PM

Look at the radius of the hook and the frame size?

Rick Losey 08-30-2015 07:45 PM

i can see the frame size in the last, and a portion of it in the next to last picture- looks like the same small font number 2 to me

Steve Huffman 08-30-2015 08:00 PM

I think what Melvin is saying is look at the barrel hook it looks shorter

Russ Jackson 08-30-2015 08:48 PM

It appears to me,in the photo with the small font #2, just behind it is a very shallow stamped # 3 also , I know it is listed as a # 2 Frame but with 6#1 Oz.Barrels ,unless they were going for a specific weight ,I would think this gun may be a # 3 Frame Gun ! I put it on my watch list just to watch what it did also and I questioned the same thing but since I am not a bidder I didn't want to kick tires and contact the seller ! This is just my own opinion !

J. Melvin Moore 08-30-2015 09:22 PM

Look at the hook in picture 8, then picture 10. Am I wrong?

Russ Jackson 08-30-2015 09:57 PM

Melvin ,I took an extra look and I have to agree with Researcher ,looks like a typical Twist Pattern to me on both barrels also ! I have to wonder what is going on under the floor plate , it appears to my eye it may be a bit warped or maybe just not positioned correctly and possibly why the floor plate screws are buggered up so badly ???? Of course those are quite repairable for a good smith ,a nice gun otherwise ,I would say ! Good Luckif you decide to bid on her ! Russ

Brian Dudley 08-30-2015 10:08 PM

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The gun is a 10g and most 10g guns will usually be on a 3 frame. The lug on this one is marked with both a 2 and a 3. Both are different sizes and also of different fonts and struck with different force. The size and font are correct for the 3 stamp, not the 2 stamp. So, this gun is a 3 frame, not a 2 as the seller represents.

Regarding the guns hook and suspicion that the barrels in photo 8 are different than that in photo 10, this is just likely an illusion caused by the angle of the camera. The same subtle markings are visible on the hook in both photos.

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Craig Larter 08-31-2015 06:52 AM

Looks like a nice shooter #3 frame NH 10ga except for the trigger plate screws to me. Any opinions on the market value of such a gun? $1000.????

Rick Losey 08-31-2015 06:59 AM

a 32 inch version just sold on GB for $1280

Brian Dudley 08-31-2015 07:19 AM

This one will likely have a hard time selling with a reserve on it. It is likely too high, as most reserves are. I personally don't even bother paying much attention to reserve listings. It's a good way for a seller to loose potential
Buyers.

Craig Larter 08-31-2015 08:56 AM

The subject gun of this post reminds me of Austin's article in DGJ "Collecting and Especially Shooting Popular Parkers". The grade 1 guns are a great value and fun to shoot.

Bill Murphy 08-31-2015 09:02 AM

The floor plate is a mess. Needs professional attention plus screws and refinishing. Too much for me. Nice heavy barrels, though.

Rick Losey 08-31-2015 09:44 AM

looking at the floor plate in pic 8- i wonder if it is not in place because the screws have been reversed-

but I also noticed a bit of a gap in the wood to bottom tang fit, making me wonder if the stock has started to split- last one i bought like that was toast inside (as i expected)

might be a project gun

Craig Larter 08-31-2015 05:57 PM

I was not suggesting the gun in this post is a good value, I was just stating my opinion that Grade 1 guns in general are a good value in the world of vintage American sxs shotguns. I agree with Bill the subject gun has two many issues for me to consider giving it a home.

Mills Morrison 09-01-2015 11:47 AM

Sort of like Brian says, I bet the reserve is something unreasonable.


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