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Can't attach forend
I removed the forend on my Parker with the hammers released. What do I have to do to be able to put the forend back on?
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George,
Is your Parker an ejector gun? If so you may need to recock the ejectors on the forend. You can do that by pushing them against a piece of wood like the work bench. Harry |
Be very, very careful in cocking the ejector hammers. Many a forend has been damaged when it slips off the corner of the workbench. Instead, use a stout hardwood dowel about 8" or so in length and while firmly holding the forend in one hand press the dowel firmly against one hammer at a time until it cocks.
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Come on Dean, you know Collins is too poor to afford something as expensive as a dowel. When he says "work bench" he really means the edge of the seat on the outhouse.
DLH |
figured it out
I used a small piece of oak to push the circular spring loaded part and moved a small part in the end of the forend which locked it open so that I could re-assemble the gun. Thanks for your help. Now does anyone know where I can find info on Parkers that were upgraded by Pachmayr?
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Destry,
Shhhh.....I didn't want to be the cause of jelousy. Harry |
The ejector tumblers (hammers) on many guns can trip when the forend is off the gun. A technique to remember that seems to work in most cases, and is safe and easy to do; take the barrels off, pull the extractors out on the barrels to the ejected position and replace the forend assembly on the barrels and latch it. Then take a piece of wood, rest the muzzles on the carpet and and gently push each extractor back into the recess. The tumblers should now stay in a cocked position, and allow reassembly of the gun. But, if an ejector sear is broken it may not stay cocked and need repair.
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Thanks Dennis. I guess not many of have ever thought of that method. Sounds foolproof.
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Thanks, great advice. George
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This did work, in a sense-for me. BUT, when the forend assy is placed on the
barrels and latched, it will not allow the barrels and forend to reassemble to the rest of stock action. The end of the forend is in the way. Take the forend off, rejoin the barrels to the action, extractors closed in as described. Then, when the barrels are almost closed completely-attach the forend and latch. "Seems to work in most cases". Indeed. But not easily. This Parker is a 1920s VHE 2 7/8(3 in) inch chambers. Stiff and about 95% condition. Parker forends are like LC Smith forends. Take them off when you must- but not too often. Cock the hammers first. Fox forends work easier and are tough-IMHO-Thanks Dennis! (I like to resurrect old dead threads and old or ancient shotguns!) |
Forend will not catch, tried wooden dowel trick
Have a 12 gauge hammer less Parker, Ser. 225065.
Took the gun apart to clean it, now the forend will not go back on. I've tried the wooden spoon end trick to push the one back, but it will not latch. I think it is in need of repair. I'm in Athens TN, if anyone knows a good Gunsmith. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/lrdl7...=p4ft049j&dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/x1mpx...=0v8rvug4&dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6fi0c...=l9t5rgcx&dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/l7sba...=fejp13sk&dl=0 |
One of the ejector hammers is not cocked. Can you take a wooden dowel or similar object and move it to cocked position?
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Yes, I've tried that. Wrote I did in my post. I can push it up, but it will not lock into place. Spring pushes it back down.
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Todd,
Check your PM. I can send you some pictures which may provide some assistance. |
The foot or catch on that ejector hammer may be fouled with hardened residue or it may be broken off.
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Got it fixed! Thank you Dean Weber. Using a soft chair to sit in, I placed the forend between my legs, used a wooden dowel to press the spring back, then in the front, used a plastic pen tip to push down the pin so it aligned in the down position with the other. Spring stayed locked back, and I was able to assemble the gun again. Once I saw that pin was raised, was a 5 second fix. No vise needed, just a soft chair.
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I’ve followed Dennis’ thread and opened extractors and installed forend. I’m not able to get the extractors to lock in the closed position. I’ll point out that the extractor tumblers on my forearm are cocked, is this a problem or as it should be. Fearful that my extractor sears are damaged. Anyone have any thoughts or advice.
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Tom, you're using terms associated with both extractor guns and ejector guns and this makes your question confusing for me.
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I should have stated the ejector tumblers (hammers) are in the cocked position. I can pull out the extractors to the ejected position and am able to attach the forearm to the barrels. Following Dennis’ thread, I should be able to push the extractors in using a wood dole but the they want lock in place. Am I doing any better with my terminology?
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I think what I'm understanding Tom is that the ejector hammers in the forend will not stay cocked... Am I right?
The actual ejector rods in the barrels are free floating and they do what the ejector hammers in the forend tell them to do. . |
Replacing Forend
Dean,
The hammers are cocked. When the barrels are attached to the receiver I cannot attach the forend. I can remove the barrels from the receiver, pull the extractors out on the barrels to the ejected position and am able to attach the forend. With the forend attached, using a block of wood, I attempt to push each extractor back into the recess position but they will not lock and stay in the recess position. Denis Potter posted on this thread explaining this solution. |
Problem solved. The hammers on the forend were not fully cocked,even though they appeared to be. Lesson learned.
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