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charlie cleveland 02-09-2015 11:23 PM

8 ga hull resizer
 
i got my hull rezizer today that a friend made for me..i was gona have one made from a wrist pin out of a truck enjine but wayne said they are to hard .the machine shop had some softer material so they took a shell and measured and bored out a heavy piece that looks like a wrist pit...first i hammered in a few with a brass drift some were ok but some were stretched at the lip of the brass...my dad gave me and old press this evening and after about a hout of unfreezeing rusted bolts and such i got it to working with this i canresize a 8 ga remington black hull in one pull of the press..now getting the hull back out of the die or wrist pin is a little more trouble i used a 3/8 extention about 8 inches long to knock them back out...i then tested all the hulls in the parker eight ga..then loaded up 3 shells and shot one of them ...any way a fellow can make him a resizer pretty easy if you know somebody with a machine shop....charlie

wayne goerres 02-10-2015 11:13 AM

Charlie use some imperial sizing die wax or some Lanolin mixed with rubbing alcohol. Lube the brass with it and It will go easier.

George M. Purtill 02-10-2015 02:06 PM

Charlie
Show us 8 bore shooters a picture. This will take the lip off that they put on the industrial shells?

Milton Starr 02-10-2015 04:43 PM

Charlie is this going to work with the newer style hulls too or do they still have to be resized on a lathe ?

charlie cleveland 02-10-2015 09:48 PM

no it will not take the lip off but shrinks thebrass to were it will fit in the gun ok.sometimes it will mess a hull up and then i have to take off the extra brass off..but most times it works good the black remington hull is the one that messes up ocasionally...the clear remington does well in the die..will get pictures soon i did 15 hulls tonite and loaded up them with no 2 shot...the hulls do not look as good as tom armbrust s die but they work well... shot a coupla of the shells i loaded up they work fine... thanks wayne for the tip on the lanolin and water trick....will try that next....charlie

charlie cleveland 02-10-2015 09:50 PM

forgot the new die will work on the new remington hulls....also a person needs a small press resizeing the hulls...hammering them in ruins to many hulls...charlie

wayne goerres 02-10-2015 09:59 PM

Charlie that is lanolin and alcohol. There is some place on the internet where you can order pure lanolin but I will have to look for it. A bottle last a long time.

charlie cleveland 03-01-2015 05:28 PM

just resized several winchester clear hull they were new and several of the remington new black hull 8 ga the rezizer is making perfect hull resizing every time...now all i gota do is get you boys a picture of this simple made resizer..the best thing about it it dont cost much to get one made..the one i got was free..a small press will be needed to make good resize hulls...i see these on ebay quite often...after church maybe i can get the pictures...i pull of the press and them hulls are resized even on a tight chambered gun....charlie

Bill Murphy 03-01-2015 06:47 PM

Charlie, don't we all have suitable presses hanging around our loading rooms? I'm waiting for the pictures.

charlie cleveland 03-01-2015 07:23 PM

no pictures tonight its raining like well its raining and the resizer is out in my shop...charlie

charlie cleveland 03-02-2015 09:02 PM

still raining here...pictures when it stops...charlie

charlie cleveland 03-03-2015 07:28 PM

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heres the picture of the resizer for the ga industrial hullstheextention is a 3/8 i use the big end to knock the hull out of the resizer..the resizer is about 5 inches long..get your machinest to get the first part of the brass to just barely go into the resizer it needs to be a little tite..then when you put the resizer under the press one pull and you got a resized hull ready to go into any 8 ga gun... shotgun that is....charlie

George M. Purtill 03-03-2015 07:34 PM

Now that is my kind of kitchen table. WD-40 right next to my peanut butter jar. I don't see a box of Saltines.

That is a very simple solution Charlie 8 Bore. does it work on those yellow Remington Industrial shells that I have a bunch of?

charlie cleveland 03-03-2015 07:50 PM

george it will work on those yello shells really good..so far i have put 5 differant type of hull s through the resizer..this is really a good tool and its cheap to have made.. and pretty hard to tear up....now if i just can come up with a 6 point crimper for the 8 ga...charlie

charlie cleveland 03-03-2015 07:54 PM

i must admit i got this idea or rather should say i borrowed waynes idea on this resizer...all the credit goes to him...charlie

Allen Peterson 03-03-2015 08:09 PM

8 ga reloader
 
Charlie I have a die and shell holder that fits into an RCBS press. I got the machine shop address out of Tom Armbrust 4 and 8 ga loads book.(BPI) One push up and retract the arm resizes a black Remington case from a kiln gun. I found
that if I punch out all the spent primers on an old press first I am more efficient reloading. It really works like a champ. I roll crimp at a table-top drill press (20 bucks at a thrift store)I have on the bench for just that purpose. Tom has loads in the book but I have been doing mostly black powder and only reload the hulls once because the BP really scorches the cases.Good luck.
Al

charlie cleveland 03-03-2015 08:23 PM

i have tom armbrust book i called the no for that 8 ga die and talked to the fellow he told me that he had quit makeing the die.now that was about 5 years back or longer he may have started making them again...this old resizer i had made works with one pull down on the presses lever handle..only thing the hull needs a little help so i use the big end of a 3/8 rachet s extention couplsa firm knocks on a hard surface and its out...but i would like to have a8 ga reloader like the mag ten on thereloaders..tom armbrust makes some but a fellow on this site said he s been waiting a year on his... anyway i would settle for a 6 point crimper at the moment.i too roll crimp the 8 ga but would like to have a 6 point crimper also...charlie

Eldon Goddard 03-03-2015 09:25 PM

Charlie I made a die of Wayne's specs as well. Works pretty good but extraction has been tough. I plan to redesign and make a better one. I think it needs a taper inside to make it better and extraction easier. Did they harden the die?

charlie cleveland 03-03-2015 09:36 PM

yes the die has been hardened..i m thinking of setting up another press to ease getting the hull out of resizer..but a coupla whacks with the extention will do the job too..one thing for sure this thing will resize a hull and it looks good....charlie

John Dallas 03-03-2015 09:41 PM

Charlie - Assume you are using a good die lubricant?

Dennis E. Jones 03-04-2015 10:39 AM

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Seeing this thread made me dig out my 8 gauge base sizer that I made years ago to iron down the reinforced head of industrial cases. It is made from mild steel about 1" thick and 2 1/2" in diameter. I turned the OD steps so it would sit in the bottom frame of my arbor press and stay in place. The hole is tapered and the edge was rounded so I could, after putting case sizing lube on it, press a case in the #1 side and then turn the die over and press the case in the second side to finish it. I use a 2 ton arbor press to push the case in and a dowel to press it out.

CraigThompson 03-04-2015 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis E. Jones (Post 161289)
Seeing this thread made me dig out my 8 gauge base sizer that I made years ago to iron down the reinforced head of industrial cases. It is made from mild steel about 1" thick and 2 1/2" in diameter. I turned the OD steps so it would sit in the bottom frame of my arbor press and stay in place. The hole is tapered and the edge was rounded so I could, after putting case sizing lube on it, press a case in the #1 side and then turn the die over and press the case in the second side to finish it. I use a 2 ton arbor press to push the case in and a dowel to press it out.

I'd very much like to have a copy of the book your die is sitting on !

charlie cleveland 03-04-2015 07:03 PM

nice looking die you made..and that book would really be a good read... yes i use lube on some hulls but this resizer workers just as well it seems dry...i really like reloading and shooting the old 8 ga..i use a lee hand held 10 ga reloader to deprime and prime the hulls and to push the wads down the hull then use a roll crimper in a drill to close up the load...but i would like to have a 6 point crimper for the 8 ga anybody got any idea s...charlie

Dennis E. Jones 03-04-2015 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 161302)
I'd very much like to have a copy of the book your die is sitting on !

Mr. Thompson,


I bought the book in 2007 from a book seller that had it listed in the "Double Gun Journal". Don't remember who that was. It is was printed by "Big Bore Press" and 1 of 100 that was printed as a revised/updated version of some earlier work. I don't know if it is available but, you might try try the author John Shanafelt phone number (408) 241-8849 most evenings. Don't know if the information is current. Mr. Shanafelt states in the book he would be pleased to help.

Regards,

Dennis Jones

Dennis E. Jones 03-04-2015 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 161363)
nice looking die you made..and that book would really be a good read... yes i use lube on some hulls but this resizer workers just as well it seems dry...i really like reloading and shooting the old 8 ga..i use a lee hand held 10 ga reloader to deprime and prime the hulls and to push the wads down the hull then use a roll crimper in a drill to close up the load...but i would like to have a 6 point crimper for the 8 ga anybody got any idea s...charlie

Charlie,

Since I shoot so few I too load the eight bore by hand. I just glue in the overshot wad. I put load information on the wad so I know what I'm shooting. I don't think it would be difficult but certainly time consuming to make a crimp starter and crimp die for the eight bore, that is if one had a press to use them in.

Regards,

Dennis Jones

CraigThompson 03-04-2015 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis E. Jones (Post 161378)
Mr. Thompson,


I bought the book in 2007 from a book seller that had it listed in the "Double Gun Journal". Don't remember who that was. It is was printed by "Big Bore Press" and 1 of 100 that was printed as a revised/updated version of some earlier work. I don't know if it is available but, you might try try the author John Shanafelt phone number (408) 241-8849 most evenings. Don't know if the information is current. Mr. Shanafelt states in the book he would be pleased to help.

Regards,

Dennis Jones

Thank you sir !
I'll give him a call .

Mark Garrett 03-05-2015 01:06 PM

I just bought one of the 10ga manuals , google it there was another one for sale some where


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