*Dead Ducks & 34" Live Bird Gun...
 

Recent threads here on 34" barrel and Live-Bird guns had me thinking about an interesting Parker that lives in the Pacific Northwest. A couple weeks ago while visiting my folks, my father and I took a few days to do some late season water fowling. One of those days we decided to take his 34" VHE Parker, which is live-bird configured with No safety and single trigger. It had been a while since I shouldered the slender long barreled gun, and the first thing coming to mind was how well the early Parker Bros artisans were at building a 34" double that shoots and balances more like a 30" gun...

Parker #163747 was ordered May 20th, 1913 by D.C. Williamson, and shipped July 19th, 1913 to the Tufts Lyon Arms Company of Los Angeles. In addition to it's 34" Vulcan pipes, the capped pistol grip stock was set up with a 15" LOP, 1 3/8" DAC, 2" DAH, and 1" Pitch. Weight was 7 pounds 14 ounces, which actually feels more like an even seven pounds in the hands. Special requests were full comb & No safety, with an additional charge of $18.75 for ejectors, and $10.00 for extra barrel length.

Just weeks after taking delivery of his new Parker, research reveals a D.C. Williamson competing on September 14, 1913 at the Pacific Coast Handicap shoot in Sacramento. I like to think D.C. was shooting his new 34" gun that day. Where Parker #163747 traveled to in later years is somewhat of a mystery. Remington repair codes on the barrel flats indicate it was returned in July of 1938 for what had to be a conversion from double triggers to a later model 2-screw single trigger, which it now carries.

Fancy scratch on early doubles is always a nice touch, but over the years the inherent quality I've found most appealing is the bare-bone lines and design of a well made double gun. Simplicity in utility continues to score high marks with this 1913 No-Safety Parker, and I have to think D.C. Williamson has a big smile on his face knowing his VHE is still getting some regular exercise in 2015.

#163747 remains quite effective on clays and serves very well as a dedicated heart-stopper on Ducks, Geese, and the occasional long-range windy day Rooster. It sure was nice to revisit some of the old hunting haunts with my Pop. The sights, sounds, and mossy river bottom smells were about the same as they've always been, only thing different was the recent addition of those damn eye-sore wind turbines sometimes seen on the horizon.

Brought a few Green Heads home to cook, and although not as good as Mom's roast Duck from 40+ years ago, my fearless yellow Lab and I thought they tasted pretty good.... Wife would Not have any part of it... A Duck, is a Duck, is a Duck.... Thanks Pop! ...;)

Best, Chris ~ CSL
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Thanks for sharing Chris.

great post Chris

that long view is reminiscent of an old long tom fowler


thanks

What ammunition did you use on the geese? I want to try my VH on geese next year. Looks like you were very successful.

I enjoyed your story and the gun pics. What I would give for a Parker like that.

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Factory Bismuth, 1 1/4 of #2's

Best, Chris
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Beautiful gun. You are fortunate to be able to hunt with your dad, this will be a lasting memory I am sure.

Is the gun still 15" LOP? I could not handle a shotgun that long very well.

320 pellets of number 7 1/2 at 3 1/4 dram. That sounds like a 1 1/8 ounce loading and if so that means he was ordering the gun to shoot 80-81 percent at 40 yards. That is a long range killing machine. Have you ever patterned it with modern loads?

The 15" LOP is commonly seen on 32- and 34-inch barreled guns and was one of the ways (along with frame size, barrel contouring and stock manipulation) that Parker Bros. (and others) achieved the wonderful handling characteristics of these long-barreled lovelies. The guns do indeed seem to handle like 30-inch or less guns coming in around 7+/- pounds. Many were of course shortened afterwards for a variety of reasons, but the original balance and handling characteristics are always a source of joy for the shooter.

A wonderful gun Chris. I too know how those special 34" Parkers feel and handle and anyone who has been fortunate enough to 'heft' John Dunkle's great-grandfather's fabulous Double Trap knows too. It is truly unbelievable how such a gun feels... until you actually handle one and shoot one.

Great thread Chris - thanks.

Nice work! I'm with you on those damn wind turbines. Where I hunt in Canada is covered with them these days. And they definitely affect the movements of waterfowl. The local nesting geese have nearly deserted the area where they stand.

DLH

Chris- thanks for the reply on the ammo. Jeff

great storey and hunt with your dad...thats one fine gun you have there...charlie

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Pete,
The VHE is no longer at 15", it had been shortened up a bit quite some time ago... Recent patterns are very tight...

Best, CSL
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Destry, You have it right... From what I've seen the wind turbines have significantly altered daily flight and feed patterns of the birds. Not to mention the irreparable changes the turbines have made to the overall landscape, once up, I doubt they will ever come down... I'm Not a Fan, Pun intended...

Best, CSL
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Always interested to hear of others experiences with their long barreled guns, and I'm sure we have some folks here still gett'n the barrels Hot on their 34" Parker... Whatever you Shoot - Upland Birds, Water Fowl, Turkey, Trap, Pigeons?... ect...

Any grade, Any gauge, Tell us about your Long 34" Snaky Shooter...


Photos would be great too...


Best, Chris ~ CSL
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My straight grip 34" gun is 163986. It may have been in the factory at the same time as yours. It was sent to Los Angeles Ca. to a trap shooter by the name of Ed Bohring. DuBray was the salesman. The price was $37.50 plus $10.00 for extra long barrels.

Jeff,
Looks like there was an Ed Bohring shooting at the Vernon Gun Club in LA on Dec-24-1916. Perhaps he was shooting your 34" gun #163986 that day?

http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrar.../SL6618029.pdf

Best, CSL
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Yes, the gun was shipped July, 17, 1913. It appears that Ed and his wife shot for the Los Angeles gun club.

Here is a picture from several years ago for you, Chris. It is my 34" DHE with some birds from a morning shoot. It is very well balanced and easy to shoot well.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...erandGeese.jpg

32 inches is as long as I can go, both 16's one hammerless the other a hammer gun. I do have a DHE 20 that left the factory with a 15 inch LOP per PGCA letter. It also included sling swivels but the barrel length is a factory 28 inches. I need to shoot that one some more:rotf:

Great photo Bob, and good looking 34" DHE. Thanks for sharing...

Best, CSL
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