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Russ Lindsay 01-19-2015 07:51 AM

ebook Parker Gun Identification & Serialization
 
I am unaware of the Parker Gun Identification & Serialization book being available in ebook or better yet PDF form. With today's handheld technologies it would seem that this reference book would be a natural.

There are a number of requests received herein for serial number requests and the like. Any thoughts on why this hasn't happened? I can be the first to have considered this. I trust this topic hasn't been wrung out before. Russ

George M. Purtill 01-19-2015 07:55 AM

it has been discussed here before and I my self would like the TPS in eBook form.

John Campbell 01-19-2015 09:23 AM

Within the raison d'etre of creating a book is the desire to not lose money in the process.

As long as the e-book generates an income equal to that of the printed book, I'm all for it.

Notice I did not say "profit."

CraigThompson 01-19-2015 10:27 AM

Can it be purchased in a paper and ink printed version now ?

And if so where would one look ?

Russ Lindsay 01-19-2015 10:31 AM

Craig, Amazon has them.

http://www.amazon.com/Parker-Identif.../dp/1886768374

Dean Romig 01-19-2015 11:03 AM

Before I retired a couple of years ago I had the ID & Ser. book online and saved to my favorites on my computer at work. I could "search" the serial number of a gun and it would bring me right to that page and highlight the line for that ser. no. Otherwise I could scroll through the entire book. Unfortunately, when I retired I didn't copy that url and I don't know where I ever found it... but I'll keep looking.

Rick Losey 01-19-2015 11:42 AM

in a hurry to get out were ya?? :rotf:

CraigThompson 01-19-2015 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ Lindsay (Post 156430)

Thanks for the link I just ordered one !

Bruce Day 01-19-2015 01:10 PM

xxxxx

Dean Romig 01-19-2015 01:52 PM

Edited. The previous post rendered mine impertinent.

Destry L. Hoffard 01-19-2015 02:03 PM

Very rarely do I agree with anything Bruce says, but on this I will have to.

DLH

Fred Preston 01-19-2015 05:50 PM

And what did he have to say?

Destry L. Hoffard 01-19-2015 05:53 PM

He said that before anybody turned it into an eBook they should ask the permission of the authors. He apparently didn't like that I agreed with him so he deleted the comment. :rotf:

Dave Suponski 01-19-2015 06:52 PM

Oh so he did say something. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why you would agree with xxx...:)

John Campbell 01-19-2015 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destry L. Hoffard (Post 156479)
... before anybody turned it into an eBook they should ask the permission of the authors.

That's certainly an appropriate step. But the publisher may actually own the copyright. My copy was published by Blue Book Publishers Inc of Minneapolis MN, so they may have some interest here as well. Chiefly financial.

Mike McKinney 01-19-2015 08:18 PM

I believe Mr. Cote has them available at Double Gun Journal as well.

Erick Dorr 01-20-2015 11:58 AM

I read Bruce's post and agree with him without any qualifiers.

Erick

Dean Romig 01-20-2015 01:24 PM

I conversed with Charlie Price last evening and he suggested that the copyright to the publication "Parker Gun Identification & Serialization" is owned by Steve Fjestad, owner of Blue Book Publications.

Either way, use of the material in it for any means other than the publication and re-publication of the book by Blue Books is protected by copyright law. So, I think Steve should be approached about an e-version being made available, both as an "app" and as a searchable program for PC's.

John Powers 01-20-2015 02:48 PM

I emailed them and received a reply to my question of an electronic version of the book. I was told one doesn't exist from Blue Book Publicationis and one at the moment, not planned.

Dean Romig 01-20-2015 03:08 PM

John, did you speak with Steve himself or someone who is speaking for him?

An easily accessible e-version would be invaluable to folks at gun shows or gun shops, looking to buy an appealing Parker where a quick verification of its configuration is a very necessary tool. My copy is about dilapidated enough that I rarely take it out of the house anymore and besides, it is very cumbersome to lug around at a show. How nice and convenient it would be to have the app on my smart phone where I could search by serial number.

John Powers 01-20-2015 03:54 PM

I received the reply from
(Ms.) Kelsey Fjestad

John Campbell 01-20-2015 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 156599)
An easily accessible e-version would be invaluable to folks at gun shows or gun shops, looking to buy an appealing Parker where a quick verification of its configuration is a very necessary tool...

True enough. But outside of collegial associations like PGCA, the primary value in this book is the information it contains. If Blue Book Pubs could see significant black ink at the end of any on-line version or smart phone "app," I'm sure they would consider them. Perhaps they don't foresee that success. Especially if they still have a warehouse full of unsold books.

Alternatively, PGCA could buy-out the copyright from Blue Book and do what they wish...

John Powers 01-20-2015 05:06 PM

The information contained in the book must've come from somebody with PGCA.

Dean Romig 01-20-2015 05:09 PM

The information in the book came from Charlie Price's database.

John Powers 01-23-2015 10:36 PM

Met with Beth Ann at the shot show and discussed. She indicated I send an email to Adam as he would know if possible or not. As I was at the Las Vegus gun show today, I discussed with S.P. Fjestad and he told me at the time they produced the book in 2002, they wanted to do an electronic version, but Remington pretty much shut the idea down. He indicated he would pass the idea again when he returns after the show.

Dean Romig 01-23-2015 11:07 PM

We'll have to discuss this with Charlie Price again to determine if Remington Arms owns the data that the book is compiled from and what exactly were the terms of agreement when the books were copied and the information put into a database.

Russ Lindsay 01-23-2015 11:11 PM

John et al., thanks. The technology and standards have come a long way since 2002. Maybe there is a better business model for delivering it in electronic form now. I know many of us use cell phones and tablets today. The first smart phones really came into wide acceptance after first publication.

It seems to me that while a small market, many of us would love to be at a gun show or gun store, see a Parker and would appreciate being able to pull up some specs on it and compare that to what they see in front of them. None of that will change the need to know what you are buying and have the knowledge and skills to appraise the condition, value and uniqueness of any given firearm before making a purchase. But the more information you have available, about how it left the factory, the better.

No matter how this turns out, it has been an interesting discussion. I have learned a bit about the origins of the data and the names of folks who brought it to the written page. Thanks.


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