Ten Gauge Frame Size
 

On an earlier thread 10 gauge hammerless frame sizes were discussed a bit . To the best of you guys knowledge only one gun was made on the #1 frame . And #2 and #3 frames are relatively the common frame size .

So now I am wondering if #4 frames and possibly #5 frames were used much if at all for the 10 gauge . And by this I mean were many made on those frames originally and not ones that were sent back to be rebarreled .

I briefly owned a 12-1/2 pound 6 frame 10 that was ordered that way. The order did not specify the 6 frame, but specified 32" barrels and a total weight of 12-1/2 pounds.

My favorite retired sailor is correct, Parkers were NOT commonly ordered by frame size. Weight was the requirement used. That stated I'm certain that Arthur William duBrey knew how to order a #1 frame gun in whatever gauge the customer wanted.

I have owned one 4 frame 10g.

Heck Brian I have at least three #4 frame 10's and one on a #5 frame. They are out there waiting to be loved and shot again... :whistle:

All I wanna know is did they make many on the #4 and or #5 frame .

Okay Craig,

Parker 10 gauges were most common on a #3 frame. There are plenty of #2 and #4 frame 10's available if one looks for them. These are certainly not as common as the #3 frame guns. Parker 10's on a #5 frame are somewhat rare and a #6 frame 10, I would consider rare.

Although rare, a Parker without condition isn't worth much unless it is a high grade and could be restored.

i have had two 10's (still have one) both 2 frames

I watch a 4 frame in very rough shape and missing its forend sell on gunbroker last week. Still wonder if I should have let it go.

All #4 and #5 frame guns I have seen have been hammer guns. #1, #2, #3 and #6 are the hammerless ten gauges I have seen. #4 frame top lever hammer guns with 32" barrels were the gun of choice for competitive shooters in the mid 1880s because they could easily be made to the eleven pound top limit of gun weight in the pigeon shooting community. Parker company shooters were "issued" these #4 frame eleven pounders, either at a discount or free depending on how well they represented Parker Brothers. Unfortunately, the use of these guns in the pigeon ring by Parker company shooters ended in 1889 when Parker wanted their shooters to use the new hammerless guns. It is nearly impossible to destroy these #4 frame pigeon guns, and, rare as they are, they keep popping up in the collector market.

Rick, I would like to look at that gunbroker ad for the #4 frame without forend. Can you give us the item number?

Bill

Here is the link

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=461146940

I have a #4 frame, 32in grade 3 top leaver hammer gun that I shoot now. It weighs 11 lbs and is very comfortable to shoot. Carvel

i bid on that gunbroker 4 frame gun..thought i had it up to the last hour..there was also a set of 3 frame barrels on ebay they said was a 12 ga but the weight was 6 lb 4 ounces so i bet they was 10 ga the serial no s on the barrels of ebay were only off by a little over a hundred on the gunbroker gun s frame the 4 frame barrels had a serial no of 16000 and something and the frame was serial no was 20000 something... there also was a good fore arm on a differant auction on ebay in fact the whole gun on ebay was there but took apart and in abnout 20 differant auctions..i bid on all thinking i could have made a 4 frame gun but it all went beyond my spending range by just a little....charlie

funny -Charlie - for the condition of the 4 frame, I waited to bid to the end and thought it was past what i was wiling to put into it

as for that eBay listing as well - the problem was, with the gun in so many parts- winning them all was unlikely

Well that's something I'd never heard before !

Never had heard of a weight limit in any of the shotgun games . That's intresting is there still a weight limit for live pigeon guns ?

Sorry for the slow response, Craig. No, there is no weight limit in present day flyer shoots.

Well if Sir Allgood issues me an invite this year I’ll give it a try . No hammer gun or 10 gauge I’m afraid but a SxS 12 none the less .