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Brian Dudley 05-20-2014 07:25 PM

Putting together a Heavy framed 12g. Waterfowler.
 
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This all started with just a grade 3 top action hammer gun action in a 3 frame size.

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The project is to build a heavy framed 12g. gun by monoblocking a 10g. barrel. Kirk Merrington will be doing the Sleeving work for this project. The barrels will be 30" 12g. chamered in 3" and choked for shooting modern steel shot.

I prepped everything for Merrington to start the work. This involved taking apart a set of 10g. barrels that I was able to locate and fit up the monoblock to the frame. The donor barrels actually closed up pretty nice and tight on the frame, but it was still a little off face. I removed the original roll joint in the frame and swapped in a brand new one from the parts bin. This was a roll from a hammerless gun that was left over NOS Parker parts inventory. The new joint gave me the additional material to be able to do the work needed to the barrel hook and breech face to get a good tight on face fit. It was also a lot easier with the rib extention off the monoblock.

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For those who may not know, the Parker rib extention is not only soldered on but also screwed on. The screw is hidden by being dressed down with the rib and then matted over or engraved over. This was the point of the flower engraved on unmatted ribs. In order to remove the rib extensions the screw head has to be drilled out and then the solder melted to get it free.

The original rib extension from the monoblock was baddly pitted and beat up. So I used another one that fit the frame well. I put a new stepped hole in the rib extention that was a little larger than the original one and I re-drilled and tapped out the hole in the monoblock. And made up a new screw for holding the rib extention on.

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One issue with this monoblock was that the check hook tip was broken off! This is the first time I had seen this on a top action hammer gun. So, I had to build that area up with weld and shape a new check hook.

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Then I roughly polished out the monoblock to remove pitting and to fit it up to the barrels to the frame on the outside.

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And... off to Merrington's shop.

Mills Morrison 05-20-2014 07:38 PM

That is way cool!:shock:

Stephen Hodges 05-21-2014 08:51 PM

That will be a great waterfowl gun, and you will be able to use steel shot to boot:shock:

Bill Murphy 05-22-2014 09:22 AM

Great project, Brian.

John Truitt 05-22-2014 10:46 AM

Great work Brian.

That will be an excellent gun. Thank you for sharing.

It is very cool when you can bring one of these back into action.

Mike Franzen 06-02-2014 12:47 PM

Nice work!

Destry L. Hoffard 06-02-2014 06:16 PM

Very cool! You should have made it 32 inch though. *wink*

DLH

Brian Dudley 06-02-2014 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Destry L. Hoffard (Post 140319)
Very cool! You should have made it 32 inch though. *wink*

DLH

I wanted to, Believe me. But... I had a pair of 30" tubes hanging around with no use for them other than this. And Merrington has been having a hard time getting tubes lately. So, I figured use what I had.

charlie cleveland 06-02-2014 08:20 PM

sounds like you are building one big duck gun for sure.. charlie

Destry L. Hoffard 06-03-2014 01:07 PM

Is this a gun for you or for a client? Be hard to let something like this go!

DLH

charlie cleveland 06-03-2014 01:25 PM

i was wondering the same thing as destrey..charlie

Brian Dudley 06-03-2014 01:33 PM

As of now for myself.

charlie cleveland 06-03-2014 07:25 PM

what do you think it will weigh when done..charlie

Brian Dudley 09-25-2014 07:08 PM

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Well, in quicker time than I expected I got the sleeved barrels back from Merrington. I asked them to come back struck and in the white with solder joints cleaned up so that I could have engraving done and blue them here.

I used a Trojan top rib so that it would be Fluid steel. The matting and makers mark will be all removed so the end product will be a smooth rib.

Chambers are 3" and chokes are Mod/Mod.

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Destry L. Hoffard 09-25-2014 07:19 PM

Going to be a slick looking gun. Come on out when you get her finished and we'll do a little work over in Canada.

DLH

wayne goerres 09-25-2014 07:53 PM

Brian. Before you blue what do you use to clean up the old blueing that is down in the rib matting. Sanding removes the matting along with all the patina.

charlie cleveland 09-26-2014 11:05 PM

is this new duck gun going to be ready for this years wildfowl season..charlie

allen newell 10-02-2014 11:41 AM

Brian, this is the best form of advertising and it's educational as well. Keep on demonstrating your work and artistry this way! Much appreciated.

Rick Losey 10-18-2014 09:41 AM

waterfowl season started this morning in NY's western zone- is it ready yet?

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seriously - any updates on this one?

Bill Holcombe 04-22-2015 01:31 PM

Hey Brian, figure you are plenty busy, just curious how this monstrosity of a gun was coming? May have missed the update in another post...

Brian Dudley 04-22-2015 01:40 PM

Haven't touched it.

Robert Delk 04-25-2015 06:11 PM

I think we have a budding Joseph Jurjevic,Slotterbeck or Fruend in our midst. I am really envious of your skill and imagination.Everyone that has seen Sean's Marlin just loves it.

edgarspencer 04-25-2015 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Delk (Post 166221)
I think we have a budding Joseph Jurjevic.

Not to take anything away from Brian, But one would have to go a long way to top Joe's skill

Robert Delk 04-25-2015 07:32 PM

Give Brian a few more projects and we'll see but Mr. Jurejevic was probably one of a kind.

edgarspencer 04-25-2015 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Delk (Post 166227)
Give Brian a few more projects and we'll see but Mr. Jurejevic was probably one of a kind.

Walter Eiserer is the closest anyone I know of to come close to Jurjevic work.

Bill Murphy 04-27-2015 10:34 AM

I once had a short correspondence with Mr. J. I believe it was concerning his double rifle built on a 28 gauge Parker. We never got to the point where he would build me one.

edgarspencer 04-27-2015 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 166315)
I once had a short correspondence with Mr. J. I believe it was concerning his double rifle built on a 28 gauge Parker. We never got to the point where he would build me one.

My dad owned that gun. It was originally built for Ed Spicer. It was a Two barrel set, the rifle being 38-55, the shotgun being 28 Ga. It was built from a pistol gripped VH28, and exquisitely engraved by John Warren.

My dad never shot it that I recall, and decided to sell it as it wasn't an original Parker. The Thursday night we took it down to Gary Herman's, Gary took it into the shop, and before our eyes, ran the stock through the band saw, and took the pistol grip right off (it was not an original Parker VH stock, but a triple X piece of French walnut. Before the shop closed that night, Walter had completely shaped the stock, fitted a straight grip trigger bow, and had begun the checkering.

Ed Spicer's middle initial was F, and I owned an Eduard Kettner Doublle rifle Ed had John Warren engrave. When I got it, I got a hold of Warren, who was in his late70s, at the time, and drove it out to the Cape, and while I waited, John altered the original gold initials ESF (the S being larger) on the floor plate to ESB, my initials.

Alan B. Webber 10-10-2015 11:14 AM

Nice to see guns like that back on line.
Merrington did a light 12 grade 3 for me a while ago and it a great duck gun.
Built in 1874.
Congratulations!


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