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Sam Hershfield 05-18-2014 11:29 AM

Damascus with NO pattern?
 
I just bought a nice G Grade (or is it a GH?) and the rib clearly states "Damascus Steel" but I can't find any pattern anywhere on the barrels (30"). They looks blued. All serial numbers match. What gives?

Jay Gardner 05-18-2014 11:59 AM

Someone blued the barrels? Wouldn't be the first time. Photos?

Sam Hershfield 05-18-2014 12:23 PM

Maybe I'm not looking hard enough
 
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Jay Gardner 05-18-2014 12:35 PM

Yep. Someone blued Damascus barrels.

Sam Hershfield 05-18-2014 12:36 PM

Too bad, looks nice though.

Steve Huffman 05-18-2014 04:46 PM

I think I can see your pattern !

KCordell 05-18-2014 04:50 PM

Nothing to worry about. There are a few guys that can redo your barrels so they look like they should.

Mills Morrison 05-18-2014 04:52 PM

Dale Edmonds can work wonders on those. I can see the old pattern too.

There are a number of others worthy for the task too, but I have first hand knowledge of Dale's work

Dean Romig 05-18-2014 04:55 PM

I see the Damascus pattern too. Maybe they were 'browned' a bit too brown. If you want to see the Damascus pattern you should send the barrels to Dale Edmonds or Brad Bachelder to have the barrels refinished. With shipping should cost in the $400 range.

Steve Huffman 05-18-2014 04:59 PM

Sam
I would not worry about the finish on the barrels as much as the head of your stock has been pinned in two places or are them some type of chip repairs or something else ?

Bill Murphy 05-18-2014 05:32 PM

I like them just the way they are. I would not have them refinished.

paul stafford jr 05-18-2014 08:23 PM

its there, to about the stock

Paul Harm 08-25-2014 10:15 AM

Why the worry about the stock repair other than it wasn't hid very well. If someone ran a couple of screws and epoxy in it the stock should be good to go.

Steve McCarty 12-27-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 139371)
I see the Damascus pattern too. Maybe they were 'browned' a bit too brown. If you want to see the Damascus pattern you should send the barrels to Dale Edmonds or Brad Bachelder to have the barrels refinished. With shipping should cost in the $400 range.

I agree, I can see the damascus pattern in the barrels too. I have had several damascus barrels refinished to bring out the pattern and paid about what Mr. Romig posted above.

Steve McCarty 12-27-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Gardner (Post 139348)
Yep. Someone blued Damascus barrels.

It looks like the reblue was done a long time ago. The barrels look kind of redish to me. I like them.

Paul Harm 12-29-2014 09:25 AM

I've had Brad redo about 5 or 6 barrels and feel even on a " beater " it's well worth the money. What's another 4 to 500 dollars when you can then see the beautiful Damascus barrels ? Making them is a lost art never to be repeated.

Sam Hershfield 12-29-2014 09:59 AM

Refinished GH
 
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Thanks for all the PGCA members who helped me confirm my weapon's barrels were Damascus and had been blued sometime in the last 100 years.

I sent the barrels to Buck Hamlin and the stock to Clint Meier and they did a spectacular job repairing the Damascus, barrel dents, ugly previous stock repair and recheckering.

I highly recommend them.

Note: I asked Buck to "brown" the barrels instead of "Black and White" because I wanted the contrast. I know it's not factory, but I prefer it.

Sam

Mills Morrison 12-29-2014 10:01 AM

Wow! Awesome results

Jay Gardner 12-29-2014 12:16 PM

Fish-tail lever and a killer stick of wood: love it.

Paul Harm 12-29-2014 04:43 PM

Sam, you needed not have worried, the black and white would have turned brown without much help and you would have had better contrast to start with. The Britts do em brown, the Americans do em B/W.

Steve McCarty 12-29-2014 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Harm (Post 154441)
I've had Brad redo about 5 or 6 barrels and feel even on a " beater " it's well worth the money. What's another 4 to 500 dollars when you can then see the beautiful Damascus barrels ? Making them is a lost art never to be repeated.

Sherman Bell described the process of making damascus barrels as three men heating, hammering and twisting iron bars all day long to make one barrel. They are a hand welded barrel. It must have been hard, hot work and the workers must have been proud of a job well done.

I used to shy away from damascus guns, but no longer. There is an Elsie No 1 grade coming to a local pawn shop. I have yet to see, it. They want $750. No 1's can be pretty nice, damascus and some engraving. If it is a good one it will be mine.

Paul Harm 01-01-2015 12:19 PM

I have a CD some one made for a old 8MM of workers in Belgium making Damascus barrels. It's very interesting - there are two guys in wooden shoes, one with a big hammer and the other with a small hammer. Not hard to guess who the master was [ small hammer].

Drew Hause 01-01-2015 12:52 PM

http://www.damascus-barrels.com/Movie.html

Jeff Kuss 01-01-2015 03:32 PM

I just watched the cd. I had bought it at one of the silent auctions. It is amazing how they made them so consistent.


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