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Brian Dudley 05-16-2014 07:24 PM

New 1874 Parker Just Aquired
 
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I had the opportunity to purchase this grade 1 straight grip 12g. Lifter No. 3832. Made in 1874. 30" Stub Twist barrels on a small 1 frame. The gun weighs in at a very nice 7-1/4 lbs. The condition of this gun is great. The photos don't really do full justice as to how much case color is remaining on the gun. Original checkering is clean, all screws are great.

The gun is equipt with rebounding locks.
The 1866 patent date is hand engraved on the trigger plate which is a little different for a grade 1. Also, the trigger guard has the serial number engraved on it. Many guns earlier that this one did not have the humber engraved on the guard bow.

The gun has very modern and shootable dimensions of 14-3/8' LOP and 1.5"/2.5" drops. Chambers measure at just over 2-5/8" and have longer forcing cones indicating being chambered for paper shells originally.

The bores in the gun are near perfect.

Mr. Hoover would get a kick out of this. The bores are both even tapered from chamber to muzzle. Right starts (at 4" from breech) at .7305" and Left at .7270". At 28" Right is .7235" and Left is .7200" There really no noricable choke in the barrels. Maybe a quick .002 or .003" in the last couple inches.
The bore diameters gradually decrease the whole length of the barrels by about .005" - .010" every couple of inches.

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Rick Losey 05-16-2014 07:53 PM

Very nice gun Brian

Eldon Goddard 05-16-2014 08:26 PM

It is amazing to think checkering that old is still in that nice of shape. It must not of been handled very much.

David Holes 05-16-2014 11:24 PM

Brian, I am curious how them tapered chokes will pattern, Dave

Mills Morrison 05-17-2014 07:52 AM

That is a great find.

edgarspencer 05-17-2014 08:07 AM

In 1874, the concept of chokes hadn't really been fully accepted, and Im sure a lot of Parkers still had straight walled tubes, or taper bored. Interestingly, I just shot an 1870s Lancaster, with no chokes, at Clays last week and kept right up with the high tech guys.

Frank Cronin 05-17-2014 08:37 AM

Very nice Brian. I have her twin built 1000 or so units later also in 1874. Pictures in my album. Interesting on the chokes as mine do have constriction mod / mod on one barrel and the shorter 28" are cyl / cyl.

Brian Dudley 05-17-2014 08:38 AM

It just has 30" long chokes.

Virginia Hessler 05-17-2014 08:54 AM

Nice find Brian, I really like those lifters. Looking forward to getting one myself.

ed good 05-18-2014 04:17 PM

very nice.

rst makes a dandy 7/8 oz load that should be safe?

Craig Larter 05-19-2014 07:18 AM

Brian: Beautiful old Parker thanks for posting the pictures.

Brian Dudley 05-24-2014 06:21 AM

I took this gun out the other day and shot a couple rounds of skeet with. It performed and handled very well!

greg conomos 05-24-2014 07:36 AM

The taper is probably intentional, but I could also believe that it is the byproduct of a machine tool that was out of spec. In 1874 a few thousandths per foot was probably considered pretty good.

Brian Dudley 05-28-2014 08:27 AM

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Here is the information from the letter.

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Dave Purnell 05-29-2014 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Cronin (Post 139288)
Very nice Brian. I have her twin built 1000 or so units later also in 1874. Pictures in my album. Interesting on the chokes as mine do have constriction mod / mod on one barrel and the shorter 28" are cyl / cyl.

Frank and Brian,
Are you guys going to Hausman's next week? I have 4054 which is a third grade one from 1874, although the hard life version. It would be fun to compare the three in person. It letters as a $75 grade, 30", Stub Twist, 12ga, choked full and full.

Brian Dudley 05-29-2014 07:46 AM

Yes, I will be there and will have this gun with me. I will have a 3 table booth in the main tent.

Larry Frey 05-29-2014 12:19 PM

Guys,
The PGCA will also have a display booth in the main tent at Hausman's and the theme this year will be hammer guns so there will be plenty there to look at and compare. I will have a couple there including 3251 also made in 1874. This year’s D grade top lever hammer gun will also be there for people to see.

Harry Schlott 05-30-2014 05:14 PM

Hi Brian,
I too have a Parker Lifter, which I've had for years. Serial # 3600.

Frank Cronin 06-04-2014 06:04 AM

Smoothbore - I'll be bringing my lifter #4071. It will be at the Parker table. I hope to see your lifter and Brian's too.

Rick Losey 06-04-2014 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry Frey (Post 140036)
Guys,
The PGCA will also have a display booth in the main tent at Hausman's and the theme this year will be hammer guns so there will be plenty there to look at and compare. I will have a couple there including 3251 also made in 1874. This year’s D grade top lever hammer gun will also be there for people to see.

you guys are killing me :crying:

what a year to miss the event

Brian Dudley 06-04-2014 08:31 AM

Sorry you cannot make it OH.

mike a. gardner 06-15-2014 03:03 PM

Very nice, Brian.

Ben Rawls 06-28-2014 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 139285)
In 1874, the concept of chokes hadn't really been fully accepted, and Im sure a lot of Parkers still had straight walled tubes, or taper bored. Interestingly, I just shot an 1870s Lancaster, with no chokes, at Clays last week and kept right up with the high tech guys.

G T Garwood in his book (Gough Thomas Gun Book) has a chapter entitled "The Myth of Choke". Interesting reading.


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