How often do you buy another double
 

I want to know what yall think is a reasonable time to wait to buy another double . I mean I think here lately I been on a gun buying binge :rotf: .. But I cant stop from wanting to buy a double barrel Damascus gun every time I see one listed somewhere . I will have my next 10 gauge sxs middle of next month . Its been on layaway since January :crying: . I just love a old sxs gun and shooting a Damascus barreled gun because of the misconception about them . Its like being part of a small group or dedicated group who know the truth . That these old guns can still have a lot of life left in them .

btw im looking at a hammerless bonehill 10 bore . Figured it would go nicely with my hammer gun but I am having a rifle built in may so im tapped out till after that engagement .

Im trying to space my buying out about every 3 or 4 months till I get a respectable collection

As soon as the better half isn't paying attention and I can sneak it into the house!!:rotf::rotf::rotf::shock:

Might buy one today.

We can just buy, buy, buy any decent gun that comes along or we can wait, curb the appetite a bit and wait til that really special one is available.

What kind of a silly question is that ...........:rotf::rotf:

I buy one every time I want one. Last year I bought 10, it was a very good year:)

:bowdown::bowdown:

a respectable mourning period for your dear departed cash? :rotf:

if its one I really want and its in the budget I'd go for it

but as Dean says - you can't buy them all- I like the next to be an interesting addition - I see them nearly every day either in a shop or online that I like and think about, but in general it would need to be something I don't have.

then again - i am a shooter, not a collector - so each needs a use.

buying doubles
 

I but whatever I like and want. I have been blessed in the stock market. I like all doubles although I have shot any of the 50 I have, I just like to look at the.

Ron

I purchased a lot more often in my 40s and 50s than I have in my 60s. Running out of gunroom space.

Ditto, ebbs & flows with me but never stops completely.

it s hard to control the buying urge.i dont think any of us that love these old doubles will ever be able to control the buying urge..the way i try to control my buying urges is to be flat broke.. charlie

Charlie im flat broke from buying doubles :rotf:
I may buy another one this year . Though my rifle build is about to drain my funding , gunsmiths aren't cheap :p . Though I have guidelines one what type of doubles I buy , only 10 bores with 32" so my market isn't as big as 12 gauge shooters and such . Though if I find a nice 16 ga someday ill get one

Yesterday ,in the pouring rain I drove 4 hours one way to pick up a 0 frame VH 16ga. Only last week I bought an early A grade Fox 12.ga. I am sick.... I need a twelve step meeting! Do they have a methodone. type drug for those of us terribly addicted to doubles!

More often than I need but less than I want

Hey Milton,

Have you found a Grade 3 LC Smith 10ga with 32" barrels to add to your collection yet? I know where one is that might be seeking a new home.

I wouldn't call myself a "collector", either. I like to shoot them, but I'm finding it difficult to shoot more than one at a time.

Milton what are you having built in a rifle? I just received a custom built Ruger #1. I put some pics of it in the Off Topic section. Between rifles and shotguns I'm gun poor but I have sold three shotguns this year. The Southern is always good for adding to the arsnal:rotf:

Im having a Rifle built in 585 HE . Its a wildcat cartridge well in a sense you cant make brass from other cases . So technically I guess its a new caliber . shoots a .585 diameter 750gr bullet @ 2600-2700 fps . I plan on keeping it around 2300 fps though . Its just a project ive had on the back burner for awhile and the gunsmith emailed the other day telling me my barrel finally came in all I have to do is send in the action and he can get it started .

It will probably be august before I buy another double but my E.C Green will be here in a few weeks so im looking forward to getting it and shooting it . Instead of buying another double I am thinking of Sending my cg bonehill to Brad B and having the barrels rebrowned and action rejointed . probably leave the wood alone its 50% glue anyhow :rotf:

I like the wood on the original rifle that the #1 is based off Farquharson rifle
how the forend dips in somewhat and tapers off . If I had a #1 which I looked at before id like it setup like this http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Sport...n%20Rifle.html

though I would want a 510 cal so probably 50-140 or 50 Alaskan . I havnt seen any #1 stocks I like so I never bought one

Milton your rifle sounds interesting. What will you use for cases if they cant be formed from an existing case? What action will you be using? I have a couple of wildcats but the cases are either fireformed in the case of the Ackley Improved or necked down as in the 416 Taylor.

Its custom made brass order from Betram by the cartridge designer and rifle builder . He order 4,000 cases and will place orders periodically . Ive been told the cases are good to 20 reloadings or more depends on how its loaded . I am using a savage action . Its a belted straight wall cases . About the size of 28 ga shell but 3 1/4 " actually its a tad bigger . To modify the action and cost of barreling an chambering is only 600$ . He can build on just about any action . Sorry if I got long winded .

heres a pic of the case if its the middle one . 300 win mag on the right

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...a/CAM00152.jpg

that things going to give somebody a head ache when they pull the trigger..please post a picture of the rifle when its finished...charlie

Charlie I will post pics . It has a 180-200gr case capacity . Its got a little more velocity than that 577 trex . I want to bag a hog with it or a deer this year :shock: . I plan on casting my own bullets 650gr probably something like a swc or wide flat nose . they don't make 585 gas checks but ive read a lubed felt 24ga wad will do the trick also . I want to use the barnes solids but I think they might quit making it . To load in the mag I need a nose length of .350" .

Charlie you better bet your shoulder its getting a muzzlebrake . Its going to be a heavy rifle with a 32 " 1.350" straight cylinder barrel .

I'm surprised it will fit in a Svage 99 action and that the action can handel the pressures. It will make a great Hog gun and I'd use it for deer as well. I love my 416 Taylor in the thick stuff for Whitetails when the shots are 100 yards or closer esp in the thick cedar swamps of the Upper Pennisula.

"I can resist everything except temptation", Oscar Wilde
I just had in my hands a little Belgian guild gun, 16ga, st. grip, under 6lbs--haven't bought it yet, but there are voices in my head------

My brother (commercial pilot) received the best answer to this question year ago from his father-in-law. During a family gathering his new bride complained about his growing collection of shotguns and his father-in-law answered the critical question with the following; honey do you want him to collect stewardesses or shotguns? His new bride immediately turned and told him he could have all the shotguns he wanted and now 35 years later he has an extensive collection of fine double barrel guns and the same bride.

That is a good response George.

Savage 99 action? ?????

I have sold 3 so far this year to be fiscally enriched for the Southern:)

Im going with a Montana rifle co PH action . The smith said he would sell me a barreled action for 1k flat . which is a deal since the action is 1200$ and a barrel job is 600$ . the Montana actions are basically pre 64 Winchesters well the Ph is a scaled up version , I think it has a bolt diameter of .850" or something its pretty huge . and it comes with the bolt face already designed for the .640" rim diameter which is what a 505 gibbs uses . I meant savage 111 action but its a staggered feed . So im just going to sell it off to someone who wants a deer rifle . Probably get a stock from joel russo or a xlr chassis . Im a fan of the new rifle chassis that are coming out . If any one else is interested in a 585 HE rifle let me know . they can be built on a variety of actions . You just have to load it accordingly . some actions can only handle so much bolt thrust .


George I tell people , im going to collect and buy things might as well be something I love and isn't self destructive . I mean Im in my 20s and it seems like most people just want to drink or do drugs . Not me though I just want enjoy my guns and shoot them as much as possible and add to my collection .

Milt your not the only one. I am glad to see more people my age enjoying old guns most people I know just want glocks, ars, and aks. Not that there is anything wrong with that but I wonder what the future of these guns are when so few of us younger gun enthusiast enjoy them. That 585 HE sounds like a hell of a gun but my .458 lott is enough for me until I can get my hands on a double 577 nitro anyways.

Eldon I had originally planned on getting A 577 nitro But then I got ahold of the Gunsmith Ed Hubel and he turned me on to his 585 HE . It is 500-600 fps faster than the 577 nitro express . same bullets (.585) . theres also the 600 overkill . Ive learned get whatever caliber you can get brass for in these big bores . Im setting mine up as a prone position rifle its going to be really heavy probably over 15lbs maybe 20lbs . You could build a 577 on a sxs shotgun action . kynoch 577 nitro ammo is only loaded to 35k psi or so low pressure really . I had a dangerous game hunter tell me the 577 calibers can over penetrate and hit a animal you didn't intentionally want to pay for . Like he was on a cape buffalo hunt and took a broadside shot with his 577 and it passed completely through and went into another and the bullet stopped in the hide on the far side of the second cape buffalo ! My 585 He cases are only 3$ a case which isn't bad since they almost last forever and theres a good supply . Oh yeah you can use gibbs cases to form them by swagging a belt onto the case but gibbs brass isn't made like cheytac/HE brass , not as thick in the web area .

I got 2 weeks or so and my Edwinson 10 ga will be here cant wait to see her . I mainly got it because I read Edwinson was a well known gunmaker and I don't ever see any of his doubles for sell . probably because they made guns in low numbers . like mine is only serial # 34xx . unlike Americans shotguns from the same period in the 100k range serial # . I prefer I brit guns I guess :bigbye:

Im not much into pistols but if I was going to get one it would be a 1902 colt . Don't like ar15s and such . not into shooting semi autos . might be because im left handed

Milton if you and Eldon are in your 20's then my hat is off to you fine young gentelman:bowdown: For a crusty old guy like me it's nice to know there are young people out there who can appreciate these fine old guns vs the Glocks, AR's AK's and such.

Milton I hope someday you can get to Africa and use your rifle on a Buff. Go when you can, DON'T put it off. You won't be sorry you went.

COB ive thought of it before , going to Africa and such but Honesty I would rather go to Wyoming or Montana and hunt grizzly or elk and do some horseback riding . And thanks for your complement I don't know about Eldon but I am 21 . You ever will never see me buy a benelli or anything as such . My brother says I have the mentality of a 90 year old man haha . Well only when it comes to my shotguns , I like modern and old rifles alike though . I love old sxs mainly though because im a die hard 10 ga fanatic and if you want a nice 10 gauge that doesn't look like a fence post then youll going to have to get something made most likely before the 1930s . my 10 bores both being pre 1898s . now I have owned modern 10 ga guns . 3 modern 10 bores and 2 Damascus guns .

Thanks C.O.B. I try to convert everyone I can young or old. I think I have one convert but he is a 20 gauge fan and I don't know if he wants to take the jump for the investment that a Parker 20 is. Milton the English are pretty smart I have shot some rounds out here when it was relatively cool for us high 90's and have had some cartridges stick in the chamber. Shot them a couple months later when summer was over with no problem. So I am a believer in the lower pressures for dangerous game guns. Ill be 27 the end of this month... where does the time go.

Eldon with the way medical tech is advancing everyday , doesn't look like the future is going to be bad for us lol .
Also I don't think most people want to learn about Damascus and how to tell if a old gun is a shooter or a wall and hanger and such things . It takes a special group of people to shoot and collect these old guns . From what ive seen people on this forum and nice and respectful to each other , they talk like their a family haha . I might try and find a parkers by the q4 of this year . I will have more money then , im looking at one that's been for sale for awhile but hope maybe if it doesn't sell the price will drop doubtful though . at least in the Nevada heat yall don't have all this humidity . sometimes here it will get 110-115 degrees with 80-90% humidty !

Cob before I forget , My dream hunt would be a Zebra . I mean stable would be a second runner up but something about a zebra hunt fascinates me . Id be happy even for one of those Texas zebra hunts .