Refinished Composite Barrel Pictures
 

It would be a very nice feature here on the forum to have a thread we can go to where we can compare "typical" finishes on barrels that have been refinished by the various names we have come to know performing this service today.

Names like Dale Edmonds, Brad Bachelder, Keith Kearcher, Doug Turnbull come to mind and I know there are a few others. Please post a picture of your barrels here and please identify who did the work on them.

Thanks for contributing to our knowledge base as this may help those who want their barrels refinished to decide where to send them.

Here is a set of Bernard Steel barrels refinished for me by Dale Edmonds about seven years ago.


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Dale's

Before and after pictures of a 12ga Herringbone Laminated barrels on a C lifter done by Brad Bachelder.

Robin: we discussed that barrel back in 2011, and it is not English Laminated Steel, but a very high grade Herringbone or Manufacture Extra. Lots of examples here
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/23997270

Remington called a similar pattern ‘Legia P.’

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../403062008.jpg


BTW: several 'before & afters', and refinished barrels are here
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/17227428

Two sets of 16ga barrels from Dale Edmonds.

Yes Drew, I remember that conversation. It was I who identified that set of barrels as English Laminated. Incidentally, the rib inscription identifies the barrels as Laminated Steel. It would be really nice to know where Parker Bros. sourced these barrels.

I have examined other Parker Bros. hammer guns with this particular design/pattern of Laminated Steel barrels and I haven't seen them on a gun lower than a Grade 4.

The Laminated Steel barrels that defined the Grade 1 T/A hammer guns were of an entirely different design/pattern.

It is my opinion that some Lifter barrels were sourced in England, but with the transition to top lever hammer guns the source was Belgium. And King was very likely discussing both pattern welded and fluid steel barrels in 1912.
More here
http://docs.google.com/a/damascuskno...YvzD18i3c/edit

Report on Duties on Metals and Manufactures of Metals
By United States Congress. Senate. Committee on Finance, 1912
Testimony regarding the Payne-Aldrich and Dingley Tariff Bills
http://books.google.com/books?id=QDkvAAAAMAAJ
http://books.google.com/books?id=QDk...AJ&pg=PA879&dq
THE TESTIMONY OF W.A. KING REPRESENTING PARKER GUN CO.
Mr. King: I can speak only for our own company in so far as wages go. For instance, on the question of barrels, Mr. Hunter informed your committee that some years ago some of the manufacturers of this country attempted to make barrels. We made some barrels: we built an addition to the factory, put in some up-to-date machinery, and brought some men from Belgium to show our blacksmiths how to do it. We had to pay our blacksmiths not less than 32 cents an hour, up to 40 cents, and we gave it up, because the highest wages paid the Belgian blacksmiths for exactly the same grade of barrel are 11 cents per hour. That is what is paid to the highest-priced man employed.
Senator Smoot: In Belgium?
Mr. King: In Belgium: yes, sir. That is where all of our barrels are imported from, with the exception of our very high-grade Whipple (probably a typo for Whitworth) steel barrels.

Refinished Grade 2 Lifter barrels by Dale Edmonds.

Attachment 32414

Attachment 32415

Refinished by Brad Bachelder

DH 10 gauge by Dale Edmonds

mills is that upper barrel in the picture have differant type damascus in it or is that the rib i m seeing.. looks good anyway...charlie

The rib was worn down a bit and we think that is why it looks black.

Mills, is the right barrel flat stamped with a D or with a DD ?

Recently posted in other discussions but again:

1883 10 GA Grade 2 Toplever Damascus, refinished by Dale Edmonds. Multiple patterns in each tube.

Just D

jerry i like that gun...charlie

Jerry Andrews--Mounsville, Wv
GH 16 Parker GH 20 and Lefever G 16-also chain link pattern LC Smith
Not the best of pictures
Ithaca Grade 3 chain damascus-original, not refinished

Harold, you have me wanting a Lefever G 16. Great photos!

Mills,
Lefever 16's are built on the same frame as their 20's-the XX frame. They are like an O frame Parker. Mine weighs 6lbs 2 oz.
I will have it at the Southern.

Look forward to seeing it.

Here is a set of refinished Ithaca Flues barrels I got back from Dale Edmonds. They are absolutely striking and the work is flawless from end to end! He does fantastic work as we all know.

Attachment 36140

WOW! Remington called that pattern "Chine P". What grade Flues?

Here's an 1894 D grade

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../251513314.jpg

And a 3 Barrel Gun Co.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../400647029.jpg

I had thought this 1903 (Lewis period) ad illustrated Chain Damascus, but it might be Chine'

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../408932781.jpg

I also have a Three Barrel Gun company in a grade 2 with that same barrel pattern. When it comes time to refinish, I can only hope for them to be as nice as these Flues barrels.

They look even better than I expected.

Holy cow! I think I recognize those barrels and the difference from the "before" is amazing. :shock:


I have an LC Smith Grade 2 with Chain Damascus, but it has a loose rib and Dale does not fix loose ribs

GH 16 barrels refinished by Dale Edmonds.

http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/...psc04d3ed2.jpg

Nice 4-iron crolle on a grade 2 Mills.

This is a great idea for a thread. Here is a set of Twist barrels from Dale Edmonds.

Very nice. Is that stub twist?

Just appeared on e-bay and looks to illustrate the same pattern
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ithaca-Model...p2056016.l4276

No Mills, they are "Plain Twist"

Here's a set of GH barrels also finished by Dale. I love the way the rib turned out.

Mike: Despite the rib marking, I believe your barrels are Damascus-Twist

David Purnell's 1888 12g 0 grade toplever hammer gun with Damascus-Twist refinished by Dale Edmonds

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../305238492.jpg

Gary Carmichael's

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../405274430.jpg

Parker 'Plain Twist'

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../245836442.jpg

Parker 'Fine English Twist' (which was of course Belgian)

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../356490813.jpg

More infro, including Dr Gaddy's Twist samples here
https://docs.google.com/a/damascuskn...LxMESM3W0/edit

How would one ever know his barrels were Damascus Twist when Parker Bros. only ever marked them Twist, Plain Twist, and Stub Twist?

More obvious pattern difference on these P grade barrels refinished by Brad

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../386972891.jpg

It would be clear if by chance an 'end-on' ribband is seen where tube segments were joined

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../365964409.jpg

Tom Flanigan's refinished Parker Plain Twist with an 'end-on' ribband

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../309788257.jpg

Here is a ribband on the same barrels

Drew I was wondering if you saw the pic in the post before this of the ribband? Can you tell if the barrels are damascus twist?

Yes Mike, I believe it is. The edges of the Twist iron & steel alternees are 'mushroomed' by mechanical deformation/hammering.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../405054735.jpg