1876 lifter
 

Can anyone tell me what frame size, gauge, and barrel length lifter #7136 left the factory as?
Thanks
Carvel

7136 is a 30" ten gauge. It was most likely built on either the 2 frame or the 3 frame.

Measuring the distance between firing pin centers in sixteenths of an inch will tell you the frame size.

The 2-frame measurement is 1 2/16" and the three frame measurement is 1 3/16"

Was the frame size system fully standardized at this early point in production?

I have two early lifters that have some variation from the standard frame size system. Both are 12g guns. Both measure a little over 1-1/8" at firing pin spacing, bolt they both vary by about 1/16" in overall width over bolsters.

I hope to meet and talk to you guys at the Southern, I am new at this and have a lot to learn.
Thanks
Carvel

Carvel,
The PGCA will be sharing a large tent out back by the two Five Stands. Please stop by and bring your Parker, we look forward to meeting you.

I plan on shooting in several of the events if possible. I will bring 1 20ga, 2 12's, and 3 10's which is my current collection. Thanks for all you guys help.
Carvel

Carvel,

Are they all lifters? I will have my bore and chamber gauges and want to get more data on the bore and chamber configurations of early Parker's for an Article I am writing. I look forward to meeting you at the SXS.

Richard B, Hoover

Richard,
I will have a couple of lifters (3251 & 18127) that you are more than welcome to measure if you want.

Only 2 are lifters.

Larry,

Thanks. That would be wonderful. Are these both 12-gauge Parkers? I am hoping to measure several guns there. Maybe there will also be several of the 11-gauge Parkers there as well.

Do you have any idea if there will be anyone at the SXS with very early 1865-1875) Eley or Parker Paper or Parker, UMC, Maynard or Draper Brass Shotshells (either for Sale or Show)?

I look forward to seeing you and all my friends in Sanford.

Yours,


Richard B. Hoover

Richard,
Yes both are 12's and I'm sure there will be many more there you can measure.

Help with a possible 11 gauge Lifter
 

Mr. Romig- I have a 11 gauge (I believe it to be) Parker Lifter SN 1346 and all the numbers match every where so marked on the gun as I have dis-assembled it-- The frame is marked on the left barrel flat (water table) as follows- lower cased capital B followed by the 4 digit serial number is slightly larger case numbers- could this the next size up from the No. 3 at 1 &3/16" between centers- as mine measures an even 1 & 1/4" on the same- also, did the frame sizes on these earlier Parkers move an even 1/16" as you progressed from on size upwards to the next-- = The Barrels are marked in flowing script on the top rib, closer to the breech- Parker Bros. Makers, Meriden, Connecticut U. S. A.-- on the bottom of the left side barrel near the breech and lug- on the underside-- 11 over a capital letter D-- opposite to that, on the right barrel underside- is a shield with the smaller case letters looks like p and d- somewhat blurred- and below that in larger case and F--thanks GF

Larry,

That is great. I would love to measure them.

Richard

Grantham,

What.size are the chambers, and what weight is your Parker.
Will you have B1346 at the Southern? I would love to see it.

Richard

Mr. Hoover, i have an average Parker from 1875, 10ga, #2 frame, 28" barrels, lifter, that is not very unusual except for the checkering of the stock. I believe that it has 2 5/8" chambers that are tapered in the usual Parker fashion. If you are interested I will bring the gun to the Southern. David

I am interested in all hammer guns. Only by getting hard data by measuring lots of bores and chambers can a lot of these mysteries and myths be resolved.:banghead:

As my old boss at the Marshall Space Flight Center, Director Wehrner Von Braun used to say:

"One test measurement is worth a hundred expert opinions."

Thanks for offering. I would love to have the chance to measure your lifter.

Richard