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Thomas L. Benson Sr. 02-14-2014 09:25 PM

Acquired my earliest Parker
 
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I picked this up from a nice fella and he has to go home and look for some more of the accessories that came with it but says they are somewhere and will find them. The ser. no. is 1968. Thomas

paul stafford jr 02-14-2014 09:30 PM

way cool , how long do I have to wait for you to sell it to me

Bill Murphy 02-14-2014 09:48 PM

I can't really tell what is missing, but the wooden wad seater should not be hard to find, or make. By the way, what is going on with the condition of this gun? Is it as good as it looks? I guess we need more pictures of the gun out of the case.

Thomas L. Benson Sr. 02-14-2014 10:01 PM

I will post some more photo's on Sunday and the gun is real tight and for its age I would say decent condition. I sent off for a letter and will wait for that before I get too excited. Thomas

todd allen 02-14-2014 10:05 PM

Wow, that is quite a find! More pictures would be great, as well as specs and dimensions.

Dean Romig 02-15-2014 07:37 AM

You're a very lucky fella Thomas.

Rick Losey 02-15-2014 10:22 AM

be still my heart :shock:

that early of a gun case with accessories - what a find

looks like a spot for a wad cutter and a wooden rammer/loading tube - they will both show up for 12 ga on ebay almost any time you look

do a search for vintage reloading tools

Rick Losey 02-15-2014 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by paul stafford jr (Post 130731)
way cool , how long do I have to wait for you to sell it to me

not for sale ---he never used the parasol handle in the pictures :rotf:

Eric Eis 02-15-2014 11:21 AM

What a find....!

Chuck Bishop 02-15-2014 11:47 AM

Thomas, you won't get much info from a letter. It's too early for the order books and it's in the stock book but about all I can read is weight, stock dimensions, and patterning info. I can't read the gauge or barrel steel. There is what looks like either a 0 or D written in red pen in the left hand column. It could either mean it's a 0 grade or has Damascus barrels. What is the barrel steel?

Brian Dudley 02-15-2014 12:06 PM

Thomas,
Great find! The gun looks to be in great condition.
I had the chance to inspect and make an offer on a similar gun about a year ago in Syracuse. It was a serial number right around 1,000 if I remember correctly. It was an open ended offer and I never heard back from the seller. It would not be too hard to get all the accessories to complete what is missing. The most expensive part would be getting all the missing shells.
But the value may be diminished since the shells would not be original to the set. :rotf:

wayne goerres 02-15-2014 12:42 PM

It is a great find. It should make the parker pages. The earliest and latest survivors list.

Thomas L. Benson Sr. 02-15-2014 02:14 PM

Chuck: I would be interested in who purchased the gun originally and what ever is available. It is decarbonited Steel. The check is in the mail. Thomas

Mills Morrison 02-15-2014 02:18 PM

Very nice! I love the accessories and case. That is a real find

Chuck Bishop 02-15-2014 03:40 PM

Only the order books list the purchaser. Sorry

Thomas L. Benson Sr. 02-15-2014 04:49 PM

Chuck: It has a B above the ser. no. on the water table and I found a name wrote in pencil on the stock under the butt plate. The Ser. no. is the same on all parts except the trigger guard is 1969 and the rest is 1968. I notices in the book that 1969 was optioned the same and I wonder if the person that had 1969 doesn't have the trigger guard with ser. no. 1968. The gun looks like it came from a town in New York which I will have to investigate further. Thomas

Chuck Bishop 02-15-2014 05:04 PM

Good luck with the gun Tom. The real early lifters in the range of 1500 to about 8000 are only in the stock books. The real early ones like yours have very faded pencil entries and many columns are not readable such as the gauge of your gun and the stock grip. At least I know yours is a straight grip as are many of those old guns in your S/N range. Please include the gauge it is in your letter. If the barrels appear uncut, include the length. Hope it's not one of those 11 gauges!

Rick Losey 02-15-2014 05:38 PM

its a 12 ga with 30" by the book

switched trigger guard, wonder if that was an oops at the factory or it someone owned both

Thomas L. Benson Sr. 02-15-2014 05:59 PM

The Parker spent some time in Oneida New York because that was wrote in pencil on stock butt. I bet they put the wrong trigger guard on this gun. Thomas

Rick Losey 02-15-2014 06:03 PM

Onieda was a well to do factory town at the point that gun was made. And home to the Onieda silver company, likely would have been good grouse hunting locally and in the nearby Adirondacks, as well as waterfowling on Onieda Lake and the nearby Mohawk river.

Thomas L. Benson Sr. 02-15-2014 06:17 PM

Rick: Sorry but I thought it was spelled Oneida.This getting to be interesting,.Thomas

Rick Losey 02-15-2014 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas L. Benson Sr. (Post 130842)
Rick: Sorry but I thought it was spelled Oneida.This getting to be interesting,.Thomas

it is - eye kant tipe

Thomas L. Benson Sr. 02-16-2014 09:47 PM

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Photo's I said I would post on Sunday.It needs a good cleaning and should be ready to go. Thomas

Daryl Corona 02-16-2014 09:52 PM

Thomas, you really hit the jackpot on this one. Very, very nice!

Rick Losey 02-16-2014 09:52 PM

beautiful - really

I don't know that I have seen worm in a cleaning kit for a breech loader before

Thomas L. Benson Sr. 02-16-2014 10:23 PM

I'm just guessing it came as a accessory with the cleaning rod and it would work for whatever type of shotgun you had. Thomas

Larry Mason 02-16-2014 10:46 PM

What a great find, Thomas. Thank you for the pictures.

Jeff Bonadurer 02-17-2014 08:56 PM

Thomas,

Congrats on the great gun. Looks in beautiful condition.
The case served its purpose well.

Best regards,

Jeff

Dean Freeman 02-17-2014 09:54 PM

Thomas,
What a beauty. I'm sure we can look forward to more eye candy. My congrats for your find. Forget the fact that i'm consumed with envy, I'm beside myself with abject lust for that case and the acoutrements which are sure to follow. Good on ya'.
I respectfully ask for some photos and dimensions of the case, acessories, and of course, the gun, in my thread... "Parker takedown case project", currently on page two of the general discussions page. Please know that i'm thankful for whatever you post here and will in no way be put out if you don't have the time. You've already made my day!
Best,
Dean

Thomas L. Benson Sr. 02-18-2014 12:43 AM

Dean: I was not aware of request but now I am and will send you anything that you need to complete your project. I will take some measurements in a couple days and wish you luck in your endeavor. Thomas

David Noble 02-18-2014 06:53 PM

Thomas, do you plan to shoot this gun? The reason I'm asking is I have a Parker back action gun from the same period with decarbonized steel barrels.
If you shoot yours, please post your results and what shell/load you used.
Congrats on your new find. It is indeed a dandy!

Thomas L. Benson Sr. 02-18-2014 07:53 PM

David: I don't know when but will shoot it probably just to take some type of upland game and then put it away and use my hunting Parkers after that. Thomas

Carl Erickson Jr 02-18-2014 07:54 PM

Thomas: when you measure the dimensions of the case please post them so I can try to make a similar case.

Thomas L. Benson Sr. 02-18-2014 08:00 PM

Carl: I will do my best to post them in a couple days. Thanks Thomas

Mills Morrison 02-18-2014 08:06 PM

I have been advised to not shoot Decarbonize and Steel barrels. I have a back action too and that was the advice I heard from Drew Hause who should know.

Thomas L. Benson Sr. 02-18-2014 10:11 PM

Mills: I would think that this gun has been shot before. What was the reason he gave. Thomas

Dean Romig 02-18-2014 10:14 PM

Decarbonized Steel are likely the weakest steel used on Parker shotguns.

Thomas L. Benson Sr. 02-18-2014 10:30 PM

Has anyone on this forum ever blew up a set of barrels with Decarbonated steel and if so I would like to see the pictures. I believe you but I just would like to see the proof. Thanks Thomas

Dean Romig 02-18-2014 10:39 PM

I think an equally appropriate question would be "Has anyone on this forum ever fired a Parker with Decarbonated Steel barrels?"

Dean Romig 02-18-2014 10:44 PM

Don't get me wrong Thomas - you have a super nice Parker there that a lot of people would love to have in their collections. I'm not criticizing the gun at all.


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