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Pleased to present...
Parker #156168
1911 DHE 20 gauge, 32 inch barrels, 3 inch chambers. One of perhaps a dozen guns ordered for the Hanford Duck Club which shares almost the identical longitude and latitude of the Wigeon Duck Club. This group of grade 3's predate the Wigeon guns by a year. Might someone please check the serialization book and try to find a block of guns similar to 156168. Thank you. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps7f2fe673.jpg http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps1d90e38e.jpg http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps70dd0075.jpg http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps20cdbfc5.jpg http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...psdf7dfcda.jpg http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...psab9d4e37.jpg |
Very Nice !!
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great gun, love the setter
156168 is in the book, but there are lots of gaps in that range of serial numbers, the next number down is 156141, next above it is 156188 then jumps to 156213. the next higher one with the same specs is 156526 (156266 is the same configuration but is an CHE) a group of four with the same specs are listed as 155947 to 155950. |
Long barrels and no safety in a duck blind? YIKES!
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WOW!!! Long barrels, straight stock, no safety....that covers all the features I like to see!!
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Very crisp engraving on that D grade. Great gun.
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No safety on duck guns was a normal thing for some members of elite duck clubs where the members knew what end the shot comes out. Lots of no safety guns in the Edwin Hedderly collection if I remember correctly. Nash Buckingham shot no safety guns. Nash claims that he didn't load his gun until the ducks were in the air. I suspect the California clubs may have had a rule requiring that.
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Bobby ,What a Great find ! the fourth picture shows some nice looking colors left on her ! The engraving is wonderful ! Beautiful Gun !!! Congrats :bowdown:!!!!!!!!!! Russ
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I wonder how many people were shot with guns with no safety. Any stories? No way will I ever hunt near anyone with a gun like that. Just my two cents worth. I have looked down many barrels while hunting quail and doves in Georgia. Holy Smokes. A fellow here once droped a automatic with the safety off. It fired three times hitting him once in the side. He did survive but was hurt badly. Gerald.
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Great gun. !!! what does it weigh ?
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three times :shock: that really was an automatic, mechanically I would wonder that happened |
No safety guns are the epitome of Parker, Smith, and Fox collector guns. I've even seen a no safety Model 21. The greatest evidence of no safety guns are pigeon guns of the pre ATA days.
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Any thoughts on the butt treatment?
Any recommendations on a replacement? Thanks. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps8158eb75.jpg |
nice ingraveing. I am surprised california dos'nt require a 3 shot plug in a double barrel.
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Good one Wayne.:rotf:
Gun was owned by the sellers' fathers' father. You could say it was Grandfathered in. |
I would be leaving that old Silver alone, or sell it to me, the gun not the pad.
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I'd keep it with all other items of provenance but I'd really like to help out the back end. Silvers you say? Thanks. |
I am with Bill leave it as is. A new pad will spoil a very classy gun just my opinion. I will take it as is and keep it as is. You asked:):)
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Thank you Craig.
I respect and appreciate your input.:bowdown: This pad however is really a mess. Crushed, cracked, gouged, misshapen. The worst facet on an otherwise handsome vintage Parker. I'd never trash it, but must it really stay? http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...psab6e844a.jpg |
I my opinion it's not a real mess it perfect it just fits the gun's overall character. I can't imagine a new pad will make it shoot better but that's just me. It's kinda like people putting vinyl siding a 18th century colonial home---- out of place in my opinion. Bottom line it's your gun and you can do as you desire----but you asked.
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What a wonderful gun! :bowdown:
Replace the pad, hammer the ducks with it and don't look back!! |
Keep the old pad but put a new one on if you want. A new soft pad may help protect the wood butt better than an old hard one. That is one great gun. +1 no safety. What's the frame size and overall weight?
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I had a Elsie that had a three position safety. In the rear position it was not automatic. I never was at ease shooting it and did not let my grandson hunt with it at all. I was very careful to explain it to a friend who bought it. It was a very nice gun but the Parker Quality just was not there.
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There was a lady here, she went hunting with her husband and somehow the gun gun accidentally went off and shot him 4 times. Then her camp shovel accidentally went off and dug a pretty deep hole. Then, the guy was so surprised by it all he rolled into the hole and all the dirt fell in on top of him. She was so shocked that went home and forgot to tell anyone about it for over 15 years.
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In the words of Horace Greeley, "...only one thing endures and that is character."
That pad spells Character with a capital "C." I wouldn't touch a thing. What a find. Beautiful gun!! |
I have a couple of favorite Parker singles with new Griffin and Howe repro Silver pads that I replaced years ago. Some day I will take the time to reinstall the original D-W and Silver pads on them. My AHE Trap also has a G&H Silver repro, has since 1986. I had a couple of spacers put under the pad because "A trap gun just had to be 14 1/2" long". That original Hawkins pad will be a bit harder to reinstall. I displayed this gun at the Eastern Panhandle shoot, along with some others on the PGCA tables. From now on, I leave them alone.
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I see said the blind man.
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Any thoughts on grunge eradication?? In the spirit of "do no harm", can a century of accumulated dirt and grime be gently removed?? Thank you. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...psab6e844a.jpg |
Most posters ask how to age a newly installed repro Silver pad to get the grunge back. 409 should work to get your grunge removed.
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The pad looks great like it is , some here use goose blood and other exotic things to get a pad to look like yours.
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Were the gun mine, I would have the pad replaced with an original Silvers (they are available) have the floorplate screws repaired and timed, a possibly, have the bolt locking lip replaced to move the lever further to the right. I consider these moves/repairs to be maintenance, not a restoration. A gun of this quality and scarcity deserves to look like a well maintained piece. Needless to say, the work should be done by one of our recognized Parker smiths.
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7lb 2 oz Unstruct barrel weight 3/13 |
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Bobby, with all the detailed advice, you don't need any from me.
Here's my old D 20/32 with its old Hy Gun pad: |
To hell with your gun...nice pad!! :envy:
Now that pad has character, mine looks diseased. Originality counts but I don't see any benefit to 100 year old schmootz. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...psfac6b858.jpg http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...psab6e844a.jpg |
I used orange based cleaner on an old Fox pad years ago. Did a great job with only 1 application. Cleaned it up and the rubber seemed rejuvinated.
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I like how when looking down these long barrels there's a horizon and you can see the curvature of the earth. |
Very cool!!:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
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I have been hunting for a DHE 20ga 32" gun for years-Y'all are killing me!!!
David |
Hey BD, I lifted your picture from a recent post.
1910 CHE Bernard 16ga
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...pscb3e3e05.jpg Same era DHE 20ga http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps025ec0ba.jpg |
Anyone know old Hugh?
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