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Wood VS Engraveing
Whats your preferance nice wood or pretty engraveing? I know you want both don't we all. I would rather have a low grade gun with really nice wood than the engraveing. I have seen A grade guns with just so so wood. A nicely figured piece of walnut with burl figure and chocolate colored swrills and reddish tints beats a flying turnip anyday at least for me. If you can combine the two without divorceing your check book of funds than all the better BUT if you had to pick which would it be?
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I believe there is a corresponding quandary over women, but I won't go there right now.
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its always about the wood. it can make a crap gun look good I should know I have a bunch of them. but I am a sucker for gold inlays just like red hair.
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After pondering the question I am a wood guy who prefers plenty of figure and warm to the touch. After all, engraving can be cut by any competent metal guy but food figure, well that's all mother nature and it won't fade or wear off over time.
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Hummm….let me see……….Mary Ann or Ginger……………I will take the wood:cool: (But I am really a Mary Ann kind of Guy)
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wood here -
nice wood lifts no engraving great engraving doesn't enhance poor wood unless the engraving is setters :bigbye: |
Another vote for wood w/ great figure.
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For me, it must be a balance. Outstanding wood on a plain or lightly engraved gun doesn't look right. Too much tart. Too little taste.
On a highly engraved gun, great wood is a must to make things look balanced. Parker had it right. Modest wood on modest guns. Great wood on great grades of gun. |
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I think Remington Parker had it right. Heres a modest VHE.
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Mary Ann would be wood and Ginger was all engraving.
David thats a prime example of what I'm talking about. What a wonderfull gun, looks like a VH but what guage??? |
On a low grade Parker I want something that sets it off from the others - makes me want to hold it and rub its stock. Nice walnut with some figure or character all its own - the warmth and depth of a piece of wood that tells me that some thought was put into its selection by the stocker with the satisfaction of the customer foremost in his or her mind. A higher grade gun absolutely must have a distinctive piece of wood on it or the gun leaves me cold. That being said, wood that is 'over the top', having been applied to the gun so as to say "Look at me - I'm better that those other guns." leaves me cold as well. I guess what I'm saying is that it must be a thoughtful marriage of gun-steel and wood to complete the picture for me and Parker Bros. usually did it very nicely.
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It's a little 16 ga. I think Remington was feeling the heat from the model 21. Blued frame, modest engraving if any, and beautiful wood. I think Winchester realized pretty wood sells.
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In my group of hunting / gun trading buddies. We have a saying " Wood sells guns"
Simple & too the point. Jack Skuese knew it well !!!! |
At least 70% of the guns I own, rifles and shotguns, I bought because of the wood. The other 30% are laminate or fiberglassed rifles.
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I'm a sucker for a nice peice of wood, This is one of my favorites...:whistle:
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Paul, whats that piece of wood attached to?
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One last photo, perhaps the best of both worlds (sorry about the poor photo). LC Smith 5E (all work done by Brad Bachelder)
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...8597D2A1A3.jpgH |
[QUOTE=Jay Gardner;103706]16 ga VH, perhaps the perfect grouse gun:
No - no - no... I have the perfect grouse guns ;) (Too many to show here though.) :smiley7: |
Neither of ya do......I do....:rotf:
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Well Dave, get the camera out:corn:
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I think the wood is what does it for me. When I walk around a gun show or go into a local shop for instance, I tend to look at the engraving first to help identify it (make, grade, etc.). My evaluation of it for what it is starts with the wood though. I do agree with Dean, I think there is such thing as "too much" when it comes to wood. I see this all to often on re-stocked guns. I'll take a warn original stock with decent figure over something outlandish with a mirror like finish any day.
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Wood. I agree with Mike in that I'm a sucker for older wood with great figure, just like a woman. No restocks for me. Engraving.... To me less is more. Some of the guns coming out of the late 1890's have spectacular wood for their grade.
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Just an FYI for all you Grouse hunters.....there is NO perfect Grouse gun. How do I know this you ask? Well it's because I have at least four perfect Grouse guns:biglaugh: IF there was the perfect gun then only one would be needed and what fun would that be?:nono:
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Here's one of my perfect Grouse guns a Holland & Holland 20 w/26 inch bbls IC/M. I bought it because I liked the wood...no really I did:)
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OK Rich, if we are going to continue in our relentless quest for "the perfect grouse gun" perhaps we should define the perfect grouse gun. I'll start a new thread so as not to clutter this one with OT stuff.
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Wonderful wood on that H & H. Do both barrels shoot now?
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You can start a new thread but the perfect Grouse gun is just an illusion of the combination of wood and steel but its ok with me:rotf:
Yes both bbls work now. It was a simple fix and the Grouse did pay the penalty as did some Pheasants. |
Now I know how the one girl at the prom, wearing a homemade dress felt.
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I have to agree with most of the posters on this thread. Wood is normaly the first thing I notice on a gun that is sitting on the rack. But then again,.........:shock: My wife asked me once, what is the first thing you notice about a woman? My answer was, "it depends.". She asked " depends on what." I said "it depends on weather the woman is coming or going" :rotf:
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:rotf::rotf::rotf:perfect
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This one had the homemade dress then went for cleaning, a GHE damascuss 20:)
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It is said that the Grade 2 and lower Meriden guns had American Black Walnut but either that one isn't or if it is, it is from a very old tree
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What do you think it is? All I can tell is pretty from ugly:rotf:
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It looks like American Black but those mineral streaks aren't often seen in American Black unless the tree was ancient.
Oh, incase you were wondering - that one is pretty! |
It's ok, there are much nicer ones:)
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