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Rich Anderson 04-10-2013 04:48 PM

Wood VS Engraveing
 
Whats your preferance nice wood or pretty engraveing? I know you want both don't we all. I would rather have a low grade gun with really nice wood than the engraveing. I have seen A grade guns with just so so wood. A nicely figured piece of walnut with burl figure and chocolate colored swrills and reddish tints beats a flying turnip anyday at least for me. If you can combine the two without divorceing your check book of funds than all the better BUT if you had to pick which would it be?

Jay Gardner 04-10-2013 05:19 PM

I believe there is a corresponding quandary over women, but I won't go there right now.

paul stafford jr 04-10-2013 05:39 PM

its always about the wood. it can make a crap gun look good I should know I have a bunch of them. but I am a sucker for gold inlays just like red hair.

Jay Gardner 04-10-2013 05:42 PM

After pondering the question I am a wood guy who prefers plenty of figure and warm to the touch. After all, engraving can be cut by any competent metal guy but food figure, well that's all mother nature and it won't fade or wear off over time.

Stephen Hodges 04-10-2013 06:11 PM

Hummm….let me see……….Mary Ann or Ginger……………I will take the wood:cool: (But I am really a Mary Ann kind of Guy)

Rick Losey 04-10-2013 06:22 PM

wood here -

nice wood lifts no engraving

great engraving doesn't enhance poor wood


unless the engraving is setters :bigbye:

Todd Schrock 04-10-2013 06:39 PM

Another vote for wood w/ great figure.

John Campbell 04-10-2013 06:58 PM

For me, it must be a balance. Outstanding wood on a plain or lightly engraved gun doesn't look right. Too much tart. Too little taste.

On a highly engraved gun, great wood is a must to make things look balanced.

Parker had it right. Modest wood on modest guns. Great wood on great grades of gun.

David Holes 04-10-2013 07:09 PM

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I think Remington Parker had it right. Heres a modest VHE.

Rich Anderson 04-10-2013 08:04 PM

Mary Ann would be wood and Ginger was all engraving.

David thats a prime example of what I'm talking about. What a wonderfull gun, looks like a VH but what guage???

Dean Romig 04-10-2013 08:31 PM

On a low grade Parker I want something that sets it off from the others - makes me want to hold it and rub its stock. Nice walnut with some figure or character all its own - the warmth and depth of a piece of wood that tells me that some thought was put into its selection by the stocker with the satisfaction of the customer foremost in his or her mind. A higher grade gun absolutely must have a distinctive piece of wood on it or the gun leaves me cold. That being said, wood that is 'over the top', having been applied to the gun so as to say "Look at me - I'm better that those other guns." leaves me cold as well. I guess what I'm saying is that it must be a thoughtful marriage of gun-steel and wood to complete the picture for me and Parker Bros. usually did it very nicely.

David Holes 04-10-2013 08:44 PM

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It's a little 16 ga. I think Remington was feeling the heat from the model 21. Blued frame, modest engraving if any, and beautiful wood. I think Winchester realized pretty wood sells.

Paul Ehlers 04-10-2013 08:58 PM

In my group of hunting / gun trading buddies. We have a saying " Wood sells guns"

Simple & too the point. Jack Skuese knew it well !!!!

Michael Murphy 04-10-2013 09:00 PM

At least 70% of the guns I own, rifles and shotguns, I bought because of the wood. The other 30% are laminate or fiberglassed rifles.

Paul Stafford 04-10-2013 09:16 PM

I'm a sucker for a nice peice of wood, This is one of my favorites...:whistle:

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=4749

Jay Gardner 04-10-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Holes (Post 103673)
I think Remington Parker had it right. Heres a modest VHE.

That one is a keeper, for sure.

David Holes 04-10-2013 09:39 PM

Paul, whats that piece of wood attached to?

Jay Gardner 04-10-2013 09:40 PM

My 28 ga Repro. Thank you Mr. Skusse.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/PA110002.jpg

Paul Stafford 04-10-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Holes (Post 103703)
Paul, whats that piece of wood attached to?

That is my 28/410 Beretta, it has two matching forends. A real beauty.

Jay Gardner 04-10-2013 09:47 PM

16 ga VH, perhaps the perfect grouse gun:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...ckleftside.jpg

Jay Gardner 04-10-2013 09:51 PM

One last photo, perhaps the best of both worlds (sorry about the poor photo). LC Smith 5E (all work done by Brad Bachelder)

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...8597D2A1A3.jpgH

Dean Romig 04-10-2013 09:56 PM

[QUOTE=Jay Gardner;103706]16 ga VH, perhaps the perfect grouse gun:


No - no - no... I have the perfect grouse guns ;)

(Too many to show here though.) :smiley7:

Dave Suponski 04-10-2013 09:59 PM

Neither of ya do......I do....:rotf:

Stephen Hodges 04-10-2013 10:31 PM

Well Dave, get the camera out:corn:

Eldon Goddard 04-10-2013 11:10 PM

Wood

Mike.Smith 04-10-2013 11:12 PM

I think the wood is what does it for me. When I walk around a gun show or go into a local shop for instance, I tend to look at the engraving first to help identify it (make, grade, etc.). My evaluation of it for what it is starts with the wood though. I do agree with Dean, I think there is such thing as "too much" when it comes to wood. I see this all to often on re-stocked guns. I'll take a warn original stock with decent figure over something outlandish with a mirror like finish any day.

Mike

Daryl Corona 04-11-2013 08:03 AM

Wood. I agree with Mike in that I'm a sucker for older wood with great figure, just like a woman. No restocks for me. Engraving.... To me less is more. Some of the guns coming out of the late 1890's have spectacular wood for their grade.

Rich Anderson 04-11-2013 08:58 AM

Just an FYI for all you Grouse hunters.....there is NO perfect Grouse gun. How do I know this you ask? Well it's because I have at least four perfect Grouse guns:biglaugh: IF there was the perfect gun then only one would be needed and what fun would that be?:nono:

Rich Anderson 04-11-2013 09:07 AM

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Here's one of my perfect Grouse guns a Holland & Holland 20 w/26 inch bbls IC/M. I bought it because I liked the wood...no really I did:)

Dean Romig 04-11-2013 09:10 AM

OK Rich, if we are going to continue in our relentless quest for "the perfect grouse gun" perhaps we should define the perfect grouse gun. I'll start a new thread so as not to clutter this one with OT stuff.

Dean Romig 04-11-2013 09:11 AM

Wonderful wood on that H & H. Do both barrels shoot now?

Rich Anderson 04-11-2013 09:23 AM

You can start a new thread but the perfect Grouse gun is just an illusion of the combination of wood and steel but its ok with me:rotf:

Yes both bbls work now. It was a simple fix and the Grouse did pay the penalty as did some Pheasants.

Wayne Johnson 04-11-2013 10:05 AM

Now I know how the one girl at the prom, wearing a homemade dress felt.

Paul Plager 04-11-2013 10:17 AM

I have to agree with most of the posters on this thread. Wood is normaly the first thing I notice on a gun that is sitting on the rack. But then again,.........:shock: My wife asked me once, what is the first thing you notice about a woman? My answer was, "it depends.". She asked " depends on what." I said "it depends on weather the woman is coming or going" :rotf:

Dave Suponski 04-11-2013 10:33 AM

:rotf::rotf::rotf:perfect

Rich Anderson 04-11-2013 05:20 PM

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This one had the homemade dress then went for cleaning, a GHE damascuss 20:)

Dean Romig 04-11-2013 06:01 PM

It is said that the Grade 2 and lower Meriden guns had American Black Walnut but either that one isn't or if it is, it is from a very old tree

Rich Anderson 04-11-2013 06:03 PM

What do you think it is? All I can tell is pretty from ugly:rotf:

Dean Romig 04-11-2013 06:07 PM

It looks like American Black but those mineral streaks aren't often seen in American Black unless the tree was ancient.

Oh, incase you were wondering - that one is pretty!

Rich Anderson 04-11-2013 06:12 PM

It's ok, there are much nicer ones:)


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