Straight Grip DHE 28ga, 28” Barrels, Double Triggers On GI
 

New listing if anyone is looking. (Not Mine)

Straight Grip DHE 28ga
28” Barrels
Double Triggers
$6,850.00

https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=101953184

Would have bought this if I had not already picked up a 2 barrel set.

At that price, it will be gone in a day.

I wish it had nicer wood. As far as reproductions go it's kind of bland.

Sure has condition; looks unused. And the wood isn't as fancy as some, but the grain is straight through the wrist, which is good; too many of the Repros that have curly fancy wood blow up at the wrist.

That is awfully high priced for a single barrel set and that Modified and full is worthless to most guys using a 28GA. But condition is certainly nice.

28 inch makes all the difference. This is a scarce variation not encumbered by a set of 26 inch barrels.

OK, I was wrong. It's still available. I have two in this scarce configuration and don't need another. However, it's been a while since such a gun has been available on the internet.

It may be stamped Mod and Full but experience with Repros tells us that measuring choke constriction and patterning will tell the REAL story.





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Probable Full and Extra Full like mine was found to be.

I wish it was F & XF with 30" barrels and yes I realize they were never made with 30" barrels in a repro . But if it were it would suit the heck out of me .

I still think if it had more typical wood it would have sold by now. I'm in the market for a 28 ga. repro right now and have been paying a lot of attention to the prices. They are up some, but I've noticed that the really high-priced ones are not moving. It's a typical case of you can ask whatever you want, what you're going to get is another story. There are a lot of overpriced PRs on the market right now but you can still find a decent buy if you're quick.

You're absolutely right Dean. I love my 28ga. 28" factory original M/F set of barrels. On a typical sporting clays course I score just as well with them as I do with either the IC/M or Q1/Q2 sets of barrels.

Because of all the negative comments that have been made regarding 28ga. Repro M/F chokes being overly tight and thus useless, many have ground metal out their 28ga. Repro's choke area. I know of several that have done so in the name of making it into their dream gun, only to learn that the grinding of the metal didn't do what they were expecting it to do. These same dreamers eventually sold their guns.

Moral of the story: If you're considering buying a 28ga. Repro w/28" bbls. stamped as having M/F chokes, measure them, know EXACTLY what you're buying as the gun may have been owned by one of the dreamers.

When I read Dean's comment, I took it to mean 'measure the chokes because they don't conform to the stamping'.
My last 28 Repro was stamped IC and Mod, but measured Mod and Full.

From what we've seen Edgar, they can be stamped one thing but constriction and pattern can be anything but.





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I think we both had similar, but different understandings of what Dean said. Your understanding was to "measure the chokes because they don't conform to the stamping", mine was that "M/F (or IC/M) patterns can vary with load selection".

My original meaning was that of the first, that they don't always conform to the markings. After the constrictions are determined different manufacturers' loads/shells can be experimented with.





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I'm not sure any load will give IC and MOD patterns with .015" and .021" chokes.

Why wouldn't spreaders do it?

From a purely academic perspective, they would. From a practical perspective, Spreader inserts for 28ga are likely not available, for the handloader. Also, Spreaders are generally only available in target shot. There are those who would want the 28 for hunting. Are there spreaders in 5, 6 71/2?
Let me counter with a question; Why not bore it, as stamped, or stamp it, as bored?

Call me a 'dreamer' if you like, but I bought the gun wanting a true IC and MOD. If I didn't already have a couple Meriden made 28ga guns, I'd have those barrels up to Mike Orlen in a heartbeat

Edgar, 99.96% of my shooting is done with reloads. About the only time I buy and shoot new shells is to replenish hulls for reloading. As a reloader of 28ga. I still have a bag and a half (500/bag) of 28ga. Spred-R inserts, but having 28ga. Repros choked Q1/Q2, IC/M and M/F I have little need to load up Spred-R's for my shooting needs. I can just use another set of barrels, but if the need arises I have a lifetime supply of the inserts on hand just in case. I don't know why the Spred-R would't work just as efficiently with #5, 6 or 7 1/2 shot as they do with 8s or 9s.

As for your counter question, I haven't any idea -- you'd expect that the gun would produce patterns commensurate with its choke designation. I also have to believe that your IC/M stamped Repro with .015/.021 constrictions falls outside the norm and is an exception rather than the rule.

Maybe you should have measured that IC/M stamped barrels before you wrote the check, eh?

I wonder if those in inserts are still available. I load 28s also, but it's kind of a pain to segregate ammo on a per-gun basis.
I am sure my 28 was more the exception and not the rule. I bought it from a gun shop on the opposite side of the country, and am not a fan of shipping stuff back and forth. I would have believed I could take it's stamping as truth, so never gave it a lot of thought. plus it filled the gap between my factory 24" and factory 28".
The two barrel set I gave my daughter measures exactly as marked.

I have tried those inserts. They are fine for twenty ga. but are very tight fitting for 28.
The best I have found are brush wads. They aren't perfect, but do open up the choke some.

I wanted to see and put on paper what a Spred-R disc did through my 28ga. Repro's FULL (.034 constriction) choke at 15 paces and compare that to the same load w/o a Spred-R disc. So I loaded up a few shells with the Spred-R disc on top of the shot. Yes, the disc is a somewhat snug and tight fit in the AA hull, but as Martha Stewart would say "That's a good thing!" I used my standard Sporting Clays load for comparison:

* AA compression formed hull
* W209 primer
* 12.9gr Universal Clays
* CB1075-28 wad
* 3/4 oz. #8 magnum shot
* 1200 FPS
* 10,800 PSI*

* It has been estimated that the addition of a Spred-R disc results in less than a 500 PSI increase in pressure.

The first pic below is the pattern at 15 paces with the Spred-R disc. It resulted in a 19" pattern spread. The second pic is a same load, but w/o the disc. This load resulted in only a 10" maximum spread at the same 15 paces.

I really like that 10" pattern. By the way, every full choke 28 gauge Repro I have measured measures .039 constriction. Every full choke Meriden Parker 28 gauge I have measured measures .020 constriction. Nothing wrong with either one if the birds are far enough away.

The tightest patterns I've seen on paper were out of my .044 Sterly. I can't imagine. 039 in a 28 gauge. Is it possible that the shot gets deformed enough that it begins to throw fliers which spread the pattern?

What would possess a person to even think .039" in a .550" bore made sense? I've had several repros with full chokes and never measured anything tighter than mid to upper 20 thous. My 24" VH came with .022" L&R, and when rarely connected, powdered clays, but I would consider it way too tight for Woodcock.

Without question! Cramming 1/2 - 5/8 oz through that hole is going to yield a very unpredictable shot column.

Let's hear from some other full choke 28 gauge Repro owners. Edgar says his are all in the 20s, and everyone I have heard from on the net says .039. OH, me too. The truth is, who cares?

You had me second guessing myself, Bill. I measured a bunch of guns yesterday, mostly 12s and .039 wouldn't shock me on a 12, but I was wondering if I was thinking 28. I looked at some chart I have glued in the top of my barrels tool box, and sure enough, .024 is "Extra Full" in a 28ga.
I'm not saying you haven't measured a bunch of Repros at .039" even though I haven't, which leads me back to my question; what would possess a person to choke a 28 so tightly?
And, to your point, Who cares?

My reproduction 28 ga. Is marked mod/full and measures.022 and.044.
- Brett

My 28 gauge Repro M/F measured .040/.047. A little tight.

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Mine is 28” and marked M/F, and is .016/.035…hasn’t been opened as far as I know, but I plan to…; something along the lines of
LM/LF