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Phillip Carr 11-18-2023 10:52 PM

Question on Skeet 20 gauge
 
A friend bought a Parker 20 gauge Remington gun. It is Skeet configured, but marked Skeet In Skeet In.
Has anyone ever observed a Parker marked this way?

Dean Romig 11-19-2023 05:46 AM

Not I Phil, that’s an odd one for sure.





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edgarspencer 11-19-2023 08:26 AM

Dean, Your 28ga Skeet gun is a Remington gun, correct? How is it marked?

Daryl Corona 11-19-2023 08:36 AM

I have a 20ga Remington skeet configured gun marked SK in and SK out.

Phillip Carr 11-19-2023 08:38 AM

I have not seen the barrel markings but have asked for a picture. I will share once I receive it.

Dean Romig 11-19-2023 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 398987)
Dean, Your 28ga Skeet gun is a Remington gun, correct? How is it marked?

Yes it is Edgar but it has no choke markings even though both PGCA and G&H letters both confirm it is a Skeet gun and not a ‘Skeet configured’ gun. The chokes are rt. .015” and l. .007”.





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Bill Murphy 11-19-2023 02:10 PM

Phil, there are Parker skeet guns with Skeet In markings on both barrels. An example is the AHE .410 sold several years ago in Pennsylvania. I believe Dean may have some pictures of that gun.

CraigThompson 11-19-2023 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 399022)
Phil, there are Parker skeet guns with Skeet In markings on both barrels. An example is the AHE .410 sold several years ago in Pennsylvania. I believe Dean may have some pictures of that gun.

That gun was at the banquet this year .

Dean Romig 11-19-2023 05:03 PM

3 Attachment(s)
410 Skeet gun... 241576


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Bill Murphy 11-19-2023 08:31 PM

So, one of us owns it. Great Parker, maybe the greatest. The Abercrombie ledger says Skeet In and Skeet Out, but the gun says Skeet In and Skeet In.

Dean Romig 11-19-2023 08:36 PM

The family (sons?) of the man who owns it were at the annual meeting banquet… with the gun.





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CraigThompson 11-19-2023 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 399048)
The family (sons?) of the man who owns it were at the annual meeting banquet… with the gun.

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I was under the impression the actual owner , his son and daughter I think were with him as well as a grandson .

But to be totally honest I never looked at the gun . I started at the other end and saw John Davis's 4 frame 10 gauge Fred Kimble gun and I didn't go any further .

Dean Romig 11-19-2023 10:34 PM

Yes Craig, now that you mention it I believe you’re correct.





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Phillip Carr 11-19-2023 11:13 PM

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Here is a picture of the markings.

David C Porter 11-20-2023 07:56 AM

It looks like they did a mill cut on original choke stamping; in front of skeet choke markings. Also Parker Skeet stamp had IN & Out under the Skeet stamp; not inline with the Skeet stamp. To me it looks like someone restamped the ckoke markings, not Parker.

Also, ser. # 242087= 1934. Has repair codes stamped: AK2= Part order barrel, not original assembly, 1941 --- PL3= Serviced June 1942.

Randy G Roberts 11-20-2023 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 399048)
The family (sons?) of the man who owns it were at the annual meeting banquet… with the gun.
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Correct, stay tuned for the Winter 23 Parker Pages. I have reason to believe this little .410 will make a brief appearance :corn:

Dean Romig 11-20-2023 09:44 AM

Interesting....

It had been back to Remington for service or repairs so who knows what may have been done there...





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Dean Romig 11-20-2023 09:52 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Just found another pic regarding AHE .410 No. 241576...


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Bill Murphy 11-20-2023 10:39 AM

The serial number on the barrel flats pictured is not the serial number of the AHE .410. Did the gun get rebarrelled?

Dean Romig 11-20-2023 10:57 AM

No Bill they're two different guns.





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Phillip Carr 11-20-2023 11:52 AM

Bill as sometimes happens. The post has taken on a discussion about the 410.
I posted a picture of the 20!gauge barrels and hope others will chime in on these markings.

Reggie Bishop 11-20-2023 12:33 PM

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Here are typical skeet markings Phil—

Dan Steingraber 11-20-2023 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip Carr (Post 399095)
Bill as sometimes happens. The post has taken on a discussion about the 410.
I posted a picture of the 20!gauge barrels and hope others will chime in on these markings.

Phil, Does that say the unstruck barrel weight was 4.3 and what’s the frame number on the lug?

Dean Romig 11-20-2023 08:32 PM

Looks like 4 lbs., 3 oz. to me too.

What is the barrel length?





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Phillip Carr 11-20-2023 09:08 PM

You guys are right. I contacted the owner it is 4 3. 12 gauge not a 20. I should have noticed that weight and realized not a 20. Sorry for any confusion.

Bill Murphy 11-20-2023 10:43 PM

Yes, Phil, I don't think that the choke markings on the gun you pictured are normal Parker markings, but this is a Remington gun and they may be different.

Dean Romig 11-21-2023 09:05 AM

The font of the letters isn’t the more common one we usually see on Remington Parkers.





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Bill Murphy 11-22-2023 09:30 AM

Dean and I both own lettered skeet guns that do not have choke markings. Does anyone have a comment on that phenomenon?

Reggie Bishop 11-22-2023 09:35 AM

Bill, you and Dean are dreaming up stuff is my comment. :duck:

Dean Romig 11-22-2023 09:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Reggie Bishop (Post 399222)
Bill, you and Dean are dreaming up stuff is my comment. :duck:


:rotf::biglaugh::rotf::biglaugh:

I gladly post my PGCA and my G&H letters on my 28 ga. Skeet gun 236912


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Dean Romig 11-22-2023 09:55 PM

Research letters posted on my previous post here.





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Bill Murphy 11-23-2023 07:52 AM

And, as I recall, Dean's 28 skeet does not have choke markings, nor does mine. I asked for comments on the "no choke markings" feature.

Dean Romig 11-23-2023 09:17 AM

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236912 barrel flats...


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Reggie Bishop 11-23-2023 11:56 AM

Beautiful 28 gauge skeet gun!

Bill Murphy 11-23-2023 02:04 PM

Reggie, now you know that Dean was not messing with you. I am not messing with you either. My 28" 28 gauge skeet gun does not have any choke markings either. You'll have to take my word for it. However, there is a reason why my gun is not marked Skeet In and Skeet Out. It is bored cylinder and cylinder. I don't know why Dean's wasn't choke marked because his gun seems to be a legitimate Skeet In and Skeet Out gun.

Robert Brooks 11-25-2023 02:58 PM

I have a GHE 20 st grip beavertail sst 2369xx that chokes are not marked. Need to get a letter. Bobby

Dan Steingraber 11-25-2023 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Brooks (Post 399424)
I have a GHE 20 st grip beavertail sst 2369xx that chokes are not marked. Need to get a letter. Bobby

That would be awesome to see. I haven't checked the books but it strikes me a potentially crazy rare. How about some pictures? My apologies. For some reason I read 16 gauge.


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