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Craig Larter 05-27-2020 08:00 AM

8 gauge all ready to go.
 
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Loaded up my first batch of 8 gauge shells yesterday, ready to give it a go. Winchester hulls, WW 209, 30 grains Clays, SP-8, 2-10 ga .130 card wads, 1 1/2oz #7 1/2 lead.

Mark Garrett 05-27-2020 08:11 AM

They look great .

Mills Morrison 05-27-2020 09:56 AM

Looking good!

Ken Descovich 05-27-2020 10:09 AM

They look pretty

CraigThompson 05-27-2020 10:10 AM

Have you test fired one yet ? I’m curiouse how they feel recoilwise in your 12-14 pound gun .

charlie cleveland 05-27-2020 11:58 AM

those look really good the recoil should be very light...the Winchester hull when new and reloaded really stand out...charlie

Jay Oliver 05-27-2020 12:39 PM

Craig those shells look great...it makes me want an 8 gauge! Let us know how they shoot.

Joseph Sheerin 05-27-2020 02:41 PM

Very cool, to be honest, I don't ever remember seeing an 8ga loads.

Bill Murphy 05-27-2020 03:08 PM

I wish my eight gauge loads looked like that.

Craig Larter 05-27-2020 06:00 PM

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Thanks guys will let you know how it goes. My two bigs are on tap for some fun tomorrow.

Mark Garrett 05-28-2020 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Larter (Post 303425)
Thanks guys will let you know how it goes. My two bigs are on tap for some fun tomorrow.

Sounds like fun , I'd like to be there . Enjoy !

Bill Murphy 05-28-2020 07:58 AM

Craig, the D grade hammer gun is an eight? Have you told us about it before?

Craig Larter 05-28-2020 03:55 PM

Bill no its a 10 gauge.
I shot the 8 and it is a blast, smokes targets at 50 plus yards, had all my buddies giggling. The load is very nice shooting little recoil, no flinching.

Bill Murphy 05-28-2020 04:07 PM

Thanks, Craig. Have you had the 30 grain Clays loads tested? What was the result? I have a full keg of Clays but understand that it isn't made any more. Is that correct?

Craig Larter 05-28-2020 04:25 PM

Clays is still being made, it was impossible to find a couple years back during the powder shortage. I got the load from Tom Armbrust 1200fps 8500psi. Shots were very consistent and the Clay's burns very clean. The mec bushing actually throws 29.1gn, so I figure a little less speed and pressure.

Mike Koneski 05-28-2020 04:25 PM

Bill, Hodgdon still makes Clays. It is a good powder. Burns clean.

Craig, do you use a hand loading machine or did you find a press? Did you mill the industrial "rib" of the hull or did you buy them that way?

Craig Larter 05-28-2020 04:46 PM

Mike I bought new Winchester hulls because they can be fold crimped. I bought hulls already swadged from Tom Armbrust. I also bought the converted MEC. Simple and easy.
My understanding is the Remington hulls can only be roll crimped. When reloading a roll crimped hull the mouth needs to be heat conditioned so the wad can be inserted. I plan to shoot my 8 at clays so I went for the press and fold crimp route.

Craig Larter 05-28-2020 08:42 PM

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Some Pictures first run with the 8

Mills Morrison 05-28-2020 09:13 PM

That is awesome! 8's are a charge to shoot

Jay Oliver 05-28-2020 10:11 PM

Craig I am glad the gun and your load recipe shot well. I must admit, since I first saw your post with the bucket of newly loaded 8 gauge shells(that looked beautiful by the way...) all I have been thinking about is getting a Parker 8 gauge of my own someday. Looks like too much fun!

Mike Koneski 05-29-2020 08:44 AM

Craig, who did the conversion to the MEC?

Craig Larter 05-29-2020 02:54 PM

Ken Burns makes the presses, my prime contact was/is Tom Armbrust.

CraigThompson 05-29-2020 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Larter (Post 303553)
Ken Burns makes the presses, my prime contact was/is Tom Armbrust.

When I talked to Tom about one of the presses he told me a great many things I didn’t absorb of perhaps went over my head . Do they use an older style 600JR and rebuild repaint etc or do they take new presses and change them out ?

Craig Larter 05-29-2020 07:32 PM

You can buy just the dies and fit them to an old style JR press, or fully set up for your load in a used JR with new dies. I decided to go for the fully set-up option to keep it simple and not waste hulls setting up a press and dies. If you are familiar with reloading either approach is not a big deal.
Many guys pick up one of these big Parkers and say "I could never shoot that thing". But I can say from experience that Parker produced beautifully balanced guns and once you shoot a few rounds you forget about the size and weight.

CraigThompson 06-01-2020 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Larter (Post 303573)
You can buy just the dies and fit them to an old style JR press, or fully set up for your load in a used JR with new dies. I decided to go for the fully set-up option to keep it simple and not waste hulls setting up a press and dies. If you are familiar with reloading either approach is not a big deal.
Many guys pick up one of these big Parkers and say "I could never shoot that thing". But I can say from experience that Parker produced beautifully balanced guns and once you shoot a few rounds you forget about the size and weight.

I just got off the phone with Ken Burns . I’ve got a 600JR coming as well as their resizing setup and an old reconditioned Herters press . If I had an RCBS Rockchucker I wouldn’t need the Herters but at present my rifle presses are incapable of accepting his resizer apparatus. He sent me a picture of the resizer deal in a Herters and an RCBS .

Daryl Corona 06-01-2020 01:40 PM

Now would'nt you really like to sneak that baby out on the marsh just to bag one duck just to say you did it?:nono::bigbye:

Looking good my friend living the life.

Mills Morrison 06-01-2020 01:43 PM

My little jon boat would sink if I put my 8 in it.

I thought I would want to take mine duck hunting, but decided it was too heavy to lug around the marsh.

Bill Murphy 06-01-2020 02:08 PM

I hand carried my AYA Matador ten around the Dorchester County Maryland marshes for years, just because I had the shells and didn't want to give up a 90 yard chance if it presented itself. One time, we were invited to clear out a pond that had been populated by hundreds of RSA mallards that were run out of a polluted home base. I had my ten that day, but wished my eights were a little closer than 120 miles up the road. The lady of the house begged us to take a
"big shot" like in the old days, but we shot everything on the wing.

CraigThompson 06-01-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 303776)
Now would'nt you really like to sneak that baby out on the marsh just to bag one duck just to say you did it?:nono::bigbye:

Looking good my friend living the life.

To be honest I’d like to take it out in a cut cornfield for the early resident goose season !

CraigThompson 06-01-2020 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 303781)
I hand carried my AYA Matador ten around the Dorchester County Maryland marshes for years, just because I had the shells and didn't want to give up a 90 yard chance if it presented itself. One time, we were invited to clear out a pond that had been populated by hundreds of RSA mallards that were run out of a polluted home base. I had my ten that day, but wished my eights were a little closer than 120 miles up the road. The lady of the house begged us to take a
"big shot" like in the old days, but we shot everything on the wing.

One of the last couple times I hunted the Blackwater for Sika during the gun season I carried my little Savage 220 bolt action rifled 20 gauge AND a Parker Grade 2 top lever 10 gauge in case they came by within 30 or so yards . Luckily that trip I was within a couple hundred yards of the truck and had a game cart for tree stand removal etc .

edgarspencer 06-01-2020 03:40 PM

As I get older, I only hunt with a twenty, and try to only keep a handful of 7/8oz loads in my pockets. I still carry a Zippo, even though a BIC is lighter.

CraigThompson 06-01-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 303792)
As I get older, I only hunt with a twenty, and try to only keep a handful of 7/8oz loads in my pockets. I still carry a Zippo, even though a BIC is lighter.

I carry a Zippo in my pocket every day . However my Zippo isn’t a lighter but rather a tape measure ! When I lay it beside my grandfathers old Zippos the lighter cases and the tape measure case match right up .

Daryl Corona 06-01-2020 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 303787)
One of the last couple times I hunted the Blackwater for Sika during the gun season I carried my little Savage 220 bolt action rifled 20 gauge AND a Parker Grade 2 top lever 10 gauge in case they came by within 30 or so yards . Luckily that trip I was within a couple hundred yards of the truck and had a game cart for tree stand removal etc .

Interesting that you chose to carry a slug gun in that marsh as in that county you can use a rifle. You can see a long way in those marshes and a target could appear from 50-200yds.

CraigThompson 06-01-2020 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 303797)
Interesting that you chose to carry a slug gun in that marsh as in that county you can use a rifle. You can see a long way in those marshes and a target could appear from 50-200yds.

Not on the Blackwater ! NWR gun regs are shotgun ML and I think handgun now . Dorchester county is rifle but not the refuge .

CraigThompson 06-10-2020 11:51 AM

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At the present I’ve got 25 new hulls and 25 already fired hulls . So I loaded one of each . Loaded a fired one first , only problem was getting it out of the depriming sizer station next time I’ll use Imperial Sizing die wax on the brass .

CraigThompson 06-10-2020 12:11 PM

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Also loaded three with 0000 buckshot . Tried the first without buffer and then two with buffer . Ten of the 0000 buck pushed by 31 grains of Clays . In the two buffered I also put an overshot card just to try and keep the buffer from sifting out the tiny hole in the middle of the crimp .

Mills Morrison 06-10-2020 12:18 PM

That is cool.

CraigThompson 06-10-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 304478)
That is cool.

Thanks ! This was a first I had the press clamped down on the breakfast table as it’s a bit warm out in my shop LOL’s !

CraigThompson 06-10-2020 12:42 PM

I’ve got 00000 buck already cast somewhere out in the shop just couldn’t lay my hands on them quick . I also have a pair of .415” round ball molds and a .775” ball mold coming from the old Tanner mold company in the UK . The .415 roughly equates into 000000 buck and the big boy I’m going to try as a punkin ball . Also bought a mold from a friend in Ohio , he’d had Accurate Molds cut it for an LC Smith 10 he had with no choke barrels , I cast with it before but only used it in my McFarland 10 gauge ML , but those slugs are also .775 HB and 730 grains they fit quite comfortably in the SP-8 shot cup . When the mold from OH gets here I’ll cast a couple dozen and give her a go .

CraigThompson 06-10-2020 12:46 PM

I’ll try the 0000 buck for pattern this evening or tommorrow and if it does okay out to say 35ish yards I’ll cart it along Friday when we go damage control hunting . And who knows :corn:


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