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Joseph white 11-18-2020 08:50 AM

Missing grade?
 
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Ok yall im a newbie here and to parkers. I bought a parker on a local online auction last week. I have looked into the information here and in other areas and have a decent understanding of what I have with the exception of the grade mark. I've taken and posted a bunch of photos here to see if anyone else can help me out with it. I will post any other pics needed if you ask. From what I know right now I have a 1883 twist barrel, size 3 frame with a barrel weight of 58. If any of that is wrong please let me know. Also if anyone would be willing to spit ball a value I would much appreciate that, and I know it would be a unofficial one, im just looking for a rough idea to see if I over paid lol. After I sort all this out ill be posting more threads on the restore or not to restore question. Thanks yall and I look forward to working with ya!

edgarspencer 11-18-2020 09:19 AM

Looks to be a 10ga. so it's a Grade 0, (R, a sub category of 0 grade, 10ga. guns). A 3 frame probably has a lot of meat in the barrel wall, so those bores 'might' clean up, but I doubt the stock will stand up to any shooting. I wouldn't speculate on the value. The 'personalizations' on the butt is interesting.

Dave Noreen 11-18-2020 11:21 AM

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By the serial number chronology 35651 would be an 1883 vintage gun. This price list is from July 1882 --

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It appears your gun is a Quality R.

We recently went through all of this for 37865 --

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...ighlight=37865

Joseph white 11-18-2020 11:43 AM

Ok so where would I find the mark for the grade then? And what is the "J" mark in reference to?

Dave Noreen 11-18-2020 02:15 PM

There isn't one. Parker Bros. didn't normally stamp the grade number on the Grade 0 and 1 guns.

Joseph white 11-18-2020 02:27 PM

Ok so I think im getting this down a bit more now. I also read all the info on the other thread that was listed so thank you for that! Would it be worth it to talk about restoration? I dont know if these hold value even in bad shape or if its worth it to restore it back to the way it was. .I know mine will need some internal work and a new stock to be safe. Thanks again yall!

Dean Romig 11-18-2020 03:44 PM

You will never recoup your ecxpanses if you do a restoration such as you mention.





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Joseph white 11-18-2020 04:00 PM

So I'm into her for $550 as of now...id love to be able to atleast make it shoot-able again. Right now it has a good crack in the stock, and the firing pins and everything feels "sticky" so I know a cleaning is needed. Other than that I don't want to redo anything on it. Just a nice oil job and barrel cleaning. If I fix those issues to where I can enjoy it does it ruin the firearm? I hate to see people try to "clean up" old items especially guns and end up destroying them, and I for sure don't want to be that guy. If the best option is a little oil and wall hang then that's what I will do but if just the bare minimum to make it fore and safe won't hurt to bad id really love to make that happen.

John Dallas 11-18-2020 04:33 PM

If you let us know where you are, we may be able to point you towards someone who lives near you and may be able to give you a better assessment.

Dean Romig 11-18-2020 04:40 PM

Both hammers are cheap non-factory replacements.





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