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John Havard 01-05-2018 11:39 AM

Guns with vent ribs
 
If this has been previously covered or is in TPS (which I have checked unsuccessfully for the desired information) then I apologize ahead of time.

How many Parkers total were built from the factory with vent ribs? Does that slice of information exist anywhere? I know (or at least I think I know) how many "trap" Parkers are reported to have been made.

In full recognition of the fact that we're missing a significant number of records in the serialization book does anyone have a number or an estimate?

Thanks, John

Dean Romig 01-05-2018 01:10 PM

Nice new avatar photo John!!





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John Havard 01-05-2018 01:15 PM

Thanks Dean. I'm usually just the "guide" (taking friends with me each year and putting them in front of the bulls) but once in a while I get to arrow one. The best thing about the new hunting spot I've found is that it's lousy with grouse. Grouse Alfredo doesn't suck.

Bill Murphy 01-05-2018 01:25 PM

Take your trap total and add a few 12 gauge field guns, skeet guns, and a few smallbores. Otherwise, dunno.

Patrick Lien 01-05-2018 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 232142)
Take your trap total and add a few 12 gauge field guns, skeet guns, and a few smallbores. Otherwise, dunno.

Then add in a bunch of late remington guns in the 242 range. They were putting vent ribs on lots of guns at the end.

PML

John Havard 01-05-2018 04:22 PM

So where would a rough estimate of the above get us to? Perhaps 1000?

Rich Anderson 01-05-2018 07:57 PM

IIRC the grades charts with have a footnote as to the percentage of guns that had vent ribs. They're not that scarce, I've sold several and currently have three, one a two barrel set.

John Havard 01-30-2018 04:24 PM

Based on Rich's note above (thanks Rich!) I finally dug through "The Grades" paying attention to the fine print. Here's what I came up with:

V grade - 201 with vent ribs
G grade - ??? Assume same as V, so 201
D grade - 3% of 9346 = 280
C grade - X% of 697 + 447 = (assuming 3%) maybe 34
B grade - 20
A grade - at least one (pictured in TPS)
AA grade - 1
A1 Special - 2

If my math is correct I come up with 740 guns with vent ribs. There are almost certainly more than this but it looks like (based on all that we can know currently) around 1000 or fewer Parkers were built with vent ribs.

What gives me pause is a case in point. I own a 1927 DHE (link to photo album below) that is not in the Serialization book and for which records (at least on our search feature) do not exist. It seems reasonable as the TPS authors did to project the same percentage of hammerless barrel guns without records to have vent ribs too. Hence, applying the 3% to all D-grade guns and guessing that G-grades have the same number of vent rib guns as V-grades all seems reasonable. But the truth is we'll never know.

I'm not a trap shooter but I'd like to believe the original purchaser of my DHE with vent rib back in 1927 was one. The butt stock dimensions are not as upright as purpose-built "Trap" guns ( 1 3/8" and 2 3/8") and it does not have a beavertail fore end. With 13 3/8" of wood to the pad I'd like to assume the gun was ordered to have a pad and was built that way. Only more recently (about 25 years ago?) the last owner had a new pad and spacer put on and had the pad faced with leather - a nice touch. I'm going to visit the nearest trap club tomorrow and put a box or two of shells through it just because. Anyway, here's the link: http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.php?albumid=805

Robert Brooks 01-30-2018 04:41 PM

I once owned a 16 ga #1 frame straight grip VHE vent rib 2 bbl set but gone down the road.Bobby

David Holes 01-30-2018 04:45 PM

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