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Frank Srebro 01-11-2017 04:11 PM

Two grouse on the road
 
No, this isn’t another joke about the difference between partridge and grouse.

Just wanted to show two nice male grouse taken a little over a year ago with a 20 bore Sterlingworth Ejector gun.


At long last, as picked up today at the taxidermist and ready for the road trip home.
http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/...pseqj4spfj.jpg

Here they are in my game room. Those base pieces are split white birch from a tree the utility had to cut at the cabin. Both birds were taken nearby there.
http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/...psxw6iw0ft.jpg

Dean Romig 01-11-2017 05:00 PM

Great ruffs on those birds!

That one with the unbroken tail band is handsome!





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charlie cleveland 01-11-2017 06:07 PM

sure are nicely mounted...looking good....charlie

Bruce Day 01-11-2017 07:31 PM

One male, one fremale.

Dean Romig 01-11-2017 08:02 PM

Actually, Evans, Bump, and others claim that the broken tail band is not definitive of a female. Gonads will tell for certain and there are other feathers and color variations particular to one sex or the other that are more dependable than the broken, or unbroken, tail band. I also used the tail band method to determine the sex of ruffed grouse, but I've changed my thinking lately.





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Frank Srebro 01-11-2017 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Day (Post 209315)
One male, one fremale.

I anticipated that and asked the taxidermist who said they are both males. I'd say he would know. :)

Richard Flanders 01-11-2017 11:33 PM

I was/am under the impression that the females don't have the dark neck feathers that the males have and poof out when strutting. I have up to 11 ruffies coming in under my feeder daily this winter and some, females, I've been surmising, have a more slender neck without the dark feathers. Just my guess though. They sure are fun to watch through the window. Every day at dawn then at around 3:15pm they start flying and running in from all directions. The snow in my yard looks like a tracked up chicken pen.

Dean Romig 01-12-2017 06:20 AM

What a great opportunity to watch and study the "perfect game bird." I'm envious Richard.





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Gary Laudermilch 01-12-2017 07:12 AM

Both male and female ruffed grouse have a ruff of feathers. It is much more pronounced on the males however. The tail feather band is only somewhat reliable as a sex indicator. Following is an excerpt from the RGS website:

"Ruffed Grouse are one of 10 species of grouse native to North America and are one of the smaller birds in the group, ranging from 17 to 25 oz. Ruffed Grouse are somewhat larger than pigeons, living their entire lives in wooded areas. The males are usually slightly larger than the females, although an occasional adult female will exceed a young male in size. Backdrop14B-WEB2The name "Ruffed" was derived from the long, shiny, black or chocolate colored neck feathers that are most prominent on the male. When the cock is in full display in defense of his territory, or showing off to an interested hen, these feathers are extended into a spectacular ruff which, together with a fully fanned tail, makes him look twice his normal size.

The plumages of the two sexes are quite similar, and while about 77% of the males have unbroken dark bands near the end of their tails, many males have incomplete bands much like those of females in which the color is faded or absent on the central tail feathers. Out of a sample of nearly 1700 grouse, the same band patterns were common to both sexes among 52% of the population. The best external basis for determining sex is a measurement of tail length. Across most of its range, a fully grown tail feather over 5-7/8 in. in length usually belongs to a male; less than 5-1/2 in. to a hen - but birds with intermediate measurements can be either male or female. When this occurs, two other procedures are useful. One is to examine the feathers on the upper side of the bird's rump, just above the central tail feathers. If there are 2 or 3 whitish spots, the bird is probably a male; if none or one, a female. Another procedure is to compare the length of the 2nd primary flight feather from Sheets Grouse 4the wing tip to the length of the central tail feather. If these two feathers are about the same length, the bird is a hen; but if the tail feather is more than 3/8 in. longer than the wing feather, he's a male! For drawings and more details, please refer to the publication, A Grouse in the Hand and the YouTube video Determining Age and Sex of Ruffed Grouse."

Rich Anderson 01-12-2017 01:18 PM

Nice birds Frank. I guess a Fox did get the game. You might have gotten three with a Parker however:rotf::rotf:


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