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David Noble 12-16-2013 01:53 PM

Receiver variation question
 
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I was looking at Ron Scores album and ran across these images of the receiver of his GH(?) grade 12ga on a 1/2 frame. Interesting gun, what with the extra engraving and checkering. But that is not what caught my attention. Observe in the picture the slots cut in the joint end of the receiver, and the pins that are on each side near the pivot pin. I have seen this before but I don't understand why this feature was used. Any help?

Channing Will 12-16-2013 02:10 PM

If I had to guess I would say the frame has been machined for an ejector mechanism.

Maybe modified for the patented ejector mechanism below?
http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/y...US717486-1.png

Brian Dudley 12-16-2013 02:20 PM

Some engraving on that frame!

Looks to be an aftermarket ejector system. The slots would be for trips sticking out from the forend and the pins would be what trips them.

Deffinately an addition to an extractor gun since this frame has an extractor style roll joint in it.

I believe I have seen other guns with aftermarket ejectors that utilize pins just in from of the roll joint pin. But I do not know of what type they are.

Dave Noreen 12-16-2013 03:42 PM

Here are pictures the late Dr. Gaddy sent me of a Parker he owned with Moran & Wolfersperger ejectors --

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...sinGH73542.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...arker73542.jpg

Something is amiss in the original post. That certainly isn't a GH-grade pictured and Moran & Wolfersperger were 30 years gone when the 1/2 frames appeared.

Channing Will 12-16-2013 05:08 PM

I just browsed through Ron's album and noticed the forend iron is a standard non-ejector iron but appears to be cyanide case colored. The barrels also appear to be newer barrels with Parker Overload Proofs. The serial number puts it at 1896 production so my guess is it went to have ejector fitted by Moran & Wolfersperger at some point in its life and then later went back to Parker for new barrels. Parker probably said we dont fit new barrels to non-factory added ejector systems so they replaced the forend iron as well.

David Noble 12-16-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 123327)
Something is amiss in the original post. That certainly isn't a GH-grade pictured and Moran & Wolfersperger were 30 years gone when the 1/2 frames appeared.

Hey, I don't just make this stuff up! :rotf:

Here is a picture of the water table of 84025. It has a "G" and a "2".
http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.p...pictureid=2868

Note also the Fleur de Lis points on the stock are just line engraved in the wood and the "A" or "B" style checking does'nt look to be factory. No mullered borders.
http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.p...pictureid=2891

I agree with DoubleOframe that the barrels were supplied as non ejector for the reason he states. I'm sure the receiver is a
"1" size due to its dimensions and date of manufacture. Remington just used "1/2" frame size replacement barrels to fit to the gun.

Still this is a very unique gun that I wish were mine.

Here is the link to Ron's album of this fine gun.
http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.php?albumid=276

greg conomos 12-16-2013 06:36 PM

There has to be a story behind that 'G'. Either it began life as a G and was reincarnated as something higher before it left the factory, or it was the personal gun of one of the engravers, or .......

Dean Romig 12-16-2013 08:08 PM

If it is an 1896 gun it certainly can't be a 1/2-frame.

I believe the 1-frame and the 1/2-frame guns share the same firing pin spacing and my guess is that the gun is a 1-frame.

Dave Noreen 12-16-2013 08:51 PM

Dave,

I'm sure you don't!!

Quote:

Hey, I don't just make this stuff up!

I made my comments before I went back and looked at all of the Ron Scores pictures of 84025. Very interesting gun. Obviousdly has had a long and varied life. Reminds me a bit of the BH(E) 20-gauge, 84040 that was passed around the Spokane Gun Club not too long ago.

Dave

David Noble 12-16-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 123350)
Dave,

Very interesting gun. Obviousdly has had a long and varied life. Reminds me a bit of the BH(E) 20-gauge, 84040 that was passed around the Spokane Gun Club not too long ago.

Dave

Yes! I was thinking the same thing! By the way, I'm the current caretaker of 84040 .

David


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