Shot clays with mine today

You're a lucky man to have some SR-7625. I will be shooting my NH Parker using ITX-original-10 #2 shot this fall myself. I ended up picking a recipe out the ITX manual using 44gr's blue dot & 1 3/8oz ITX #2

I shot some of these this week. I think they are going to be deadly on sandhill cranes this fall.

Hi Paul, what pressure and velocity is this load? Have you patterned it?

Last year was my rookie year with my EH on geese. Love it. Got three. It's a stitch to shoot. Lots of grins. I'll try to post a picture or two. I'm not good at that.

Yep Add me to your list, a great Wildfowling piece, use it on the ducks and Geese and sometimes I have a bash on the clays.
Sundodger
From over the Pond

The ITX manual states the load is supposed to be 1200fps @ 7300psi. I haven't extensively pattern tested the load, but I did shoot a 30"x30" piece of cardboard at 40 yards with it the other day. I counted 125 pellet hits out of the approximately 145 pellets in the load. I'm sure it will be effective on the larger fowl like cranes & geese.

i would say that your gun is a full choke throwing them kinds of patterns..the short ten is good on anything flying and most animals that walk.....steve glad you fellas like the short ten too...but i guess this round was used first by you fellows on the other side of the pond...charlie

I shoot a grade 3 lifter with 28" factory length barrels. Fabulous gun. If truth be told...the 10 bore is the magic gauge. The old timers knew this very well. Then someone said a hunting double needed to be light. What a crock! Once you shoot a 10 you won't want to shoot anything else. Just my opinion of course.

I took my grade 2 10ga hammer gun to a pheasant preserve here in Alaska and had a ball. I let my friend Trigg try it. He had never shot a 10ga, and maybe not a hammer gun, and dusted a pheasant with the first shot. It seemed almost too easy to hit pheasants with that gun.

That has been my experience exactly!

Your right. 10's are the most fun. I shoot short 10 RST 1/1/4 oz 7.5 loads at ZZTrap once in a while with my d grade #6 frame guns (hammerless and hammer) and though the loads are pretty slow they bust the plastic real well. 41/4 drams of black powder (Track of the Wolfe CNC machined brass cases)with about 1 1/4 oz of lead (or bismuth)are really deadly on ducks and geese (and a real crowd pleaser). 3 1/2 " 1 3/8 oz of steel in my D grade #3 frame are the deadliest. You can easily kill a mallard, goose or driven pheasant at 70 yards if you can reconcile the lead you have to give them. The 3.5" gun does kick. I can't do 1 5/8 oz anymore although I just put an ISIS pad on it for the coming duck season so we'll see.
By the way a great way to clean a lot of the soot out of your black powder barrels after a days shelling is to shoot a couple of final smokeless loads through them. It doesn't take nearly as much soap and water after that.

My Grade 3 10 gauge lifter factory letter states that my gun will put 480 #8 pellets in a 24" circle at 45 yards! Havn't verified that on paper yet but it kills or breaks everything I point at! I regularly break 25 straight on the skeet course with this gun by using Gauge Mate 12 gauge inserts. I can shoot off the shelf 1 1/8 oz loads with no problem. I probably have well over 3000 rounds thru this gun and it is still tight as a tick.

Cheers!:)

Yes, I do Scott Excellent

FINALLY I did it! Today, the second day of the 2017 Iowa goose season I got a double on geese with my EH short ten. It wasn't the prettiest pair in the air ever shot with a Parker but it was a true pair and a great way to start the season. Now if I can relearn how to post a iPhone picture.

Looks like there are quite a few short 10 "users." I am also one. I have a GH Parker, a 3 grade Hammer Parker (currently at Brad Bacheldor's), an Ithaca Hammer 10, and a W.C. Scott hammer gun in the short ten. Great fall turkey guns, and they'll reach out for high squirrels, too. I shoot the lightest loads from RST and have started setting up to reload my own.

Count me in too. Just setting up my re-loader today

count me in too...i have been shooting the short ten for over 50 years they are in my opinion the best guns out there....charlie

$150 grade early lifter, English W. Richards hammer, jones underlever, 34” damascus

I just the thread again and realized( or maybe missed it ) I have not added my GH grade 2 frame with 28 inch bbls, gun weighs 7 1/4 lbs... I also picked up a 32 inch Greener that weighs in at around 11 lbs ,the Parker is a 10 you could carry all day !

boy that is a light 10 ga...charlie

I have 3 of the "short 10" guns that I shoot. Have a MEC set up to reload for them.

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How short is your short 10? I have just acquired a 2 5/8 short 10 and wondered how I would reload for it. After a short thinking session I added another MEC 1/2 spacer to my MEC loader that I load 2 7/8 " and the loads with Cheddite hulls look factory new. Sometimes a new problem is just a short challenge. Jim Garrett

I just sold a Greener with fluid steel barrels back before Xmas . That one was 10 gauge 30" near as I can ascertain it was made about 1905 . The side safety on it was a touch different . I've got a 12 gauge Greener tang safety that I've owned for 40+ years . Killed a pile or two if birds with that one . I know I asked you before but what's your EH 28" choked ?

Imp/Mod I believe ...its a walking hunters bird gun for sure

So I’m just about ready - got my L.C. Smith grade
2 back from Buck Hamlin who did a pretty fantastic job on a gun that was very rough- and picked up 10 ga reloading setup from another member. Now who can help me with some low pressure bismuth reloading recipes so I can use this gun for Goose season next year?

Right here....

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...oading+recipes






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I have two short tens - one a Grade 3 Lifter and the other is a set of very stout 30", 2-frame Damascus barrels that I haven't finished fitting to my 1898 DH. This will make its 4th set of barrels. Barrel set #1 are the 30" Titanic barrels it was made with; barrel set #2 are 30" Damascus barrels Russ Bickel fit to the gun for me; barrel set #3 is a set of 26" Damascus barrels with open chokes; and barrel set#4 are these heavy 30" 10-gauge barrels with reversed chokes. Don't ask me why I did this.... "it was fun" is the best answer I can come up with.

The lifter has killed two nice longbeards for me and a couple of jakes.... who knows what my other 10 will do for me. But it'll be fun, whatever it is.






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Have acquired a parker hammer 1844 one set bibls 28 other 32 beautiful condtion Grade 3 on 3 frame just shot some doves with it already will soon go after long beards

Is that date a typo. Maybe 1874 or 1884.

10 gauge hammer
 

That was my typo the gun letters 1884

short 10 loading error
 

apparently I did not read my own thread of 1-28-18. Instead of adding a 1/2' spacer to the MEC setup for 2 7/8" shells I added a 1/4" spacer. A 2 3/8" 10 gauge would indeed be a short 10. By the way, the 2 5/8" shells shoot very well. Jim Garrett

So far we have 94 shooters of the "Short Ten" among us.

I love the short 10 for pass shooting geese. And the best thing is that my 10's handle #2's reasonably well for long range geese. I much prefer #3's but I haven't been able to get that shot size since Herter's went out of business many years ago. I have never owned a 12 bore that shot #2's worth a damn.

Six months ago I did not have a 10 and swore I’d never own one because it would be one more thing to load for. Now I have three: a NH-grade, a grade 3 and a WC Scott. What fun they are.

I too have 3,Two NID super 10's and a EH 2 frame parker, I do like shooting the 10;s a few times a year :rolleyes:
scott

I shoot a 2 5/8" 10 gauge lifter. Is that considered a super-short 10?

Yes

Put me down, shot the lifter last week and the 73 Clabrough yesterday. They are more fun than well you fill in the blank.

Very early $150 grade lifter, the first known Parker Hinge Pin Gun, and a massive english heminway’s new model, 32” hammergun........hammering the South Texas Turkey population!!

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