boy i gota lot of crow hunting to catch up with you boys....both of them guns are really throwing a close pattern looks to be both guns shooting 90 to 95 percent at 40 yards...charlie

Well that is something to look forward to! Looking at what I wrote in the pictures the 10 threw 92.49% and the 12 shot 88%.

You have some very good patterns for sure. And there is no substitute for projectile weight. Have been shooting cast bullet rifles for years. Ballistic charts rank velocity high. On game or steel silhouette targets weight is what does the job.

I have a supply or RST 10 G 1 1-4 oz # 6. My hand loads so far for the short ten are target, 1 1-8 # 7 1-2 Looking for something between the two, with lower recoil. Both of my 10s are choked tight enough to handle # 6 either 1 1-8 or 1 1-4

12 G 1 oz another story, my guns 7 is as large as I plan to go, based on # 7 patterns so far. Am going to use the 1oz 7 for long clays mostly . Density is a issue.

Real question for me is do I buy a bag of 6 just for the short 10 hunting loads Am going to pattern some # 7 1 1-8 and see how they look.

Willam

12 G 1 oz another story, my guns 7 is as large as I plan to go, based on # 7 patterns so far. Am going to use the 1oz 7 for long clays mostly . Density is a issue.


You might want to check, but most clay coarse have a no bigger than 7 1/2 shot rule and most "shoots" have that rule too. i would just buy the 6's and you be happy you did for crow hunting and 7 1/2 's for long ranges clays .:) scott
Willam[/QUOTE]

So you are questioning whether or not to spend + or - $45 for a bag of shot that would be far and away more effective for crow shooting based on what a couple of guys who have shot thousands of crows told you?

The 7's I am sure will pattern fine, but regardless of how they pattern they do not measure up to the performance of #6 on crows. Constant use of 7 will result in more visibly hit birds flying off, birds coming down screaming like they were stung by 100 bees, more walking wounded that have to be run down and dispatched. All these happens with #6 but to a much lesser extent than with #7, #7.5 and #8.

Not doubting your experience, just going to see for myself. Have factory 1 1-4 oz # 6 to compare.

William

Spreadsheet in Excel?
 

Does anyone have this list in the original Excel format?

Hi guys I cannot find any attachments is this because I am using an iPad?

Oops got it, dooh

After 2or3 reloadings the Federal and Cheddit hulls I have been using start to split in the crimp. So, I tried trimming the hulls to 2 3/8 inches, use the same shot and powder load as with the 2 7/8 inch and trim the wad 1/4 inch with sizzors and don't use the 1/2 inch filler wad in the shot cup. Raise the short adapter on the MEC 600 jr up another 1/2 inch and it crimps perfect. Tried them on the crony and patterning board and see no difference. Loaded it is a neet looking 2 inch shell and you get 2 or 3 more loadings out of the hull and don't have to buy or use filler wads. Carvel