Agreed Daryl, and I think we should endeavor to stick to this premise. However, even in the 1880’s, and later, in the pigeon shoots of yore it was always about the expertise of the shooter and not so much the gun, but if you are a religious reader of John Davis’ quarterly column “Parkers In Pulp” (as I am.) the gun always got billing after the shoot and the respective manufacturers were very quick to claim victory for their “brand.”





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I've told John that the "Parkers in Pulp" series is my favorite read.

Yes, way back then Dean, those shooters were like the athlete "superstars" of today hawking their sponsored products.
The top clay shooters of today are sponsored by the various ammo and gun manufactures as they were back then. Hit a Titlelist3 and you could be just as good as Arnie Palmer.

In most cases the age old axiom "it's not the arrow, it's the Indian" holds true.
Just because Parker, Fox, LCSmith or Lefever wins a challenge event we all understand that they are all great guns but not the best in the field.

So come to these events with your favorite piece or pieces, shoot your best, and feel good that you don't have to shoot like Digweed or Koneski to make the team. Just keep in mind that there will always be a #3 crosser that will level the playing field.:eek::bigbye:

[QUOTE=Pete Lester;344366][SIZE="4"] " No matter how the teams are picked there will be unhappy people. Since many really good shooters will jump on the team they qualify for brand loyalty is questionable...

.... this year the Vintagers did not offer a discounted round for no score as they did in '19 and is done at the June shoot at Hausmann's...... I think the lack of having a discounted round for no score is self defeating for the club as I think it leads to less shooting overall.

... Breakdown of equipment such as the pigeon ring not being available for most of the shoot affects participation as well. "

Now this really gets to the heart of the matter....Thanks, Pete!!!

Geez, ya miss 5 targets with 4 of them being a simple r to l crosser and you become a has been!!!! :rotf::rotf::rotf: Trust me, anyone can be "stuck on stupid"!! :banghead::banghead:

If it is the crosser I remember, it is tough. But tough is good.

Totally different targets than in June on the 5-Stand. I thought that target was actually one of the simpler targets on that event. Not fast, not far, just a lot of transition and I shot over it all 4 times. Didn't miss it in the Field Gun event. It is what it is. :)

Don't sweat it K-Man....when they stop roasting the chestnuts, then it's time to worry!! You got this!!! :bigbye:

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It's all good Tool, I would expect nothing less!! I do prefer my roasted chestnuts in PA Dutch Potato Filling!! :cool:

Just yanking your chain, but I know you know that. I did list you after Digweed so you got that going for you.

That #2 gave some shooters a fit. Me included.:banghead:

But Digweed shoots "Eurotrash"!! :rotf::rotf::rotf: