The gun is a full race Wilson Combat. I'll bet it will digest anything yopu can get into the magazine.

You hit it on the head Paul!!! It's paranoia time...and the companies are taking advantage..You hoarders out there are yours and our worst enemy!!

Egad! There must be nothing to fear or be circumspect of these days. I feel better now. I'm going to run out and buy a few more 8-pounders of Red Dot just to celebrate.

Last weekend the Kittery Trading Post had a 2 day Winchester truckload ammunition sale. A couple of people I know went to the store before it opened on Saturday and found lines 50 people deep at each door. They had 333 packs of Winchester 22LR for $18 and some off name brand 50 rd boxes of 22LR for $4. They limited each customer to 3 boxes of each. My friends said the crowd around the shelf of 22 ammo was like a feeding frenzy of sharks and the 22 ammo sold out in a couple of minutes. It remains crazy out there.

I have also heard that a small gun store in Rochester NH is taking 22 LR ammo in trade towards the purchase of firearms and paying a premium price for it.

Nuff said!!!

I have unopened 1lb cans of Powder:

452 AA (1lb 4.9 oz -- weight of can and powder)

And
Hercules Bullseye (1 lb 2.9 oz) Pistol powder

And once opened:

473 AA (14.4 oz)

I do not reload these powders. If anyone can use them, I will bring them to the SXS.

Richard

Well this doesn't help the situation. The Rio Ammunition plant had a fatal explosion and fire last week. I am going to guess their production of ammunition is going to be delayed for awhile.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1758901

whats next no strings or arrows for our bows...charlie

You may be more right than you think. These Feds in in Nevada seemed to have plenty of ammo. To shoot cows:

http://www.infowars.com/bundy-family...-cattle-grave/

Can you think of anyone else in history who has done this? Except with people...

Just looked rst has no 10 ga ammo ! And probably wont for awhile because of powder/hull shortage . I just ordered some gaugemates gold 10 ga to 16 ga . wanted 20ga ones but they sold out and are selling off leftover stock . I can get 16 ga ammo easily . Guess I should hide my 4 boxes of rst and just shoot 16ga until rst gets back to it .

our club in Michigan is out of all shotgun powder. but we do have some rifle powder left. we might not get more till the end of the summer. if you can find what you need buy it.

Julia heard an ugly rumor today that shotgun shells are due for yet another price increase. I went on RST's website to load up and they were out of stock of everything I normally get from them. Julia went online to order some of her shells and her supplier was out too.

It would seem to me that as shooters who reload run out of and can't find powder they will turn to shooting factory loaded shells, increasing the demand for factory loaded shells. This will probably worsen and prolong the bulk powder shortage as the big ammo makers get priority for powder and will need more of it. This could be a viscious cycle for a time to come.

It already is a vicious cycle and looks to be getting worse.

No need to worry. Homeland Security just by itself recently ordered 704 million rounds. If my math is close, that would be enough to fight WWII for about a week. Worldwide.

Add in the other govt agency orders and... you need a few train loads of powder.

I feel safer already...

Does it bother anyone else that Homeland Security feels it needs that amount of ammunition? What are they preparing themselves for?

And also why are our tax dollars being spent this way...........:eek: :cuss: :crying:

I was not too pleased when they created the Department of Homeland Security in the first place. Don't we have enough law enforcement agencies already?

The audience here might care to visit Wikipedia. Then put "gestapo" into the search box. In part, you will learn this:


“As part of the deal in which Adolf Hitler became Chancellor of Germany, Hermann Göring—future commander of the Luftwaffe and an influential Nazi Party official—was named Interior Minister of Prussia. This gave him command of the largest police force in Germany. Soon afterward, Göring detached the political and intelligence sections from the police and filled their ranks with Nazis. On 26 April 1933, Göring merged the two units as the Gestapo…


“Göring himself urged Hitler to extend the agency's authority throughout Germany. This represented a radical departure from German tradition, which held that law enforcement was (mostly) a Land (state) and local matter.”

Any of this sound familiar?

What gets me is the people getting hurt in this whole thing are small suppliers like RST and people like us who want to perpetuate vintage guns and good sportsmanship. If they want to go after the bad guys, good, go after the bad guys, but leave us alone

RST does have some shells available, so I loaded up.

12 gauge Nice Shot is in, so I got a few boxes of that too. Their supplies of Nice Shot were tight last season

all I can say is I hope things change after the next election

And the Pope's new campaign for a worldwide "legitimate redistribution of wealth."???
What ever happened to the "separation of church and state"? :shock:

That is EXACTLY what the founding fathers had in mind to avoid when they put separation of church and state in the Constitution.

I am not convinced it is all politicians and smell big ammo companies trying to run the small guys out of business.

The precise phrase in the 1st Amendment reads:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

It contains no mention of "redistribution of wealth."

Still, a Pope and his faith hold more wealth in the Vatican and worldwide than anyone can know. Doesn't charity begin "at home"?

BTW, Ballistic Products has Fiocchi and Winchester cartridges on SALE.

the phrase separation of church and state was embodied in US law by a Supreme Court decision in1947.

i've been lucky in finding what powder I have been looking for most of the time lately. One of the bigger shops I stop at tells me Clays should be back in production later this summer.

Not to belabor a 'conspiracy theory' but I just read where FEMA and DHS attempted to buy up the entire supply of Survival Food produced by the Food4Patriots company and it leaves me wondering about their motives....?

Just one of many strange things going on? FEMA & DHS buying food that will last almost as long as a Twinke could make some logical reason. At least that can be used if another natural disaster puts thousands in shelters.

But why does the United States Postal Service (USPS) need ammo? There are others buying large amounts of ammo that seem more than a little odd too! Social Security!?:shock: I'm living on Social Security and I don't think they are going to provide me protection services.

Business Week wrote that "On April 14, 2014 Newsmax reported that the USPS was seeking to buy a large amount of ammunition on the heels of similar purchases by the Social Security Administration, the U.S. Department of Agriculture, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration."

I'm still looking for a supply of .22 ammo. I see a little more ammo on the shelves but not what I need.:banghead:

HUGE ammo buys by " Social Security Administration, the U.S. Department of Agriculture, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration." ???

I give the members of this organisation more credit than that. Ask yourself these questions;

Why does the SS administration need ammunition? Malevolent retirees?
Why does the UDSA need ammunition? Enraged pigs and cows?
Why does the NOAA need ammunition? Shamu gone wild?
Has the government ever lied to you? Think "Benghazi."

To hell with .22 LR. I want .50 BMG...

Just to add to the discussion, one of the managers at the Kittery Trading Post mentioned to me recently that although ammunition and reloading supplies sales increased 800 to 1000 percent in the last year sales of gun cleaning supplies are down 30%. His conclusion, customers are buying lots of ammo, powder and primers etc. and not shooting their guns.

That's a good bet.

It seems to me manufacturers and retailers will have to raise prices in order to bring some equilibrium back to the market by discourageing hoarders. Quite sad the powder situation has come to this and these auctions show how crazy it continues to be.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=415370263

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=414474715

After all this madness, will they lower the prices? Probably not unfortunately.

That is simply insane and I do NOT believe those auctions to be legitimate.

Heck. I've got a pound of Unique that I will let go today for half that price: $205.

Plus HAZMAT fee and shipping of course...

Dean can you elaborate on what causes you to believe they are not legit? These are not the first in the $300 to $400+ winning bid for 8lbs of Unique. There is very little powder out there to be had, especially powders that are used in pistol rounds.

Dean and others. Go to Gunbroker, use the Advanced Search, search Completed Items for....

Powder 8*

You will be shocked.

lots of thing go nuts over there

a little while back a dealer i have done business with a couple times (and found to be a good person to deal with) listed a box of 16 gauge 2 1/2 inch polywad spreader loads -

it went for $55 give or take a few pennies - I have 8 boxes I would let go for the bargain price of $50 each.

they list on the polywad site for $15 now

at my club we have all the primers in stock for the first time in three years at good prices. but we have no shotgun or pistol powder, so buy primers now and powder next winter when some becomes avalible .we have lots off B&P and NOBEL shells in stock, I think these are imported the euros don't seem to have the same problem we have