gotcha, thanks!

I have never rotated my trigger guard, so that's why it looked off to me...

thanks, Robert!

any chances you have any more photos of your Crass you can post and share, particularly taken apart to any degree?

The locking lug on the barrel set strikes the trip spring directly, moving the trip pin out of the trip hole in the locking bolt so the bolt shoots forward locking the barrels.

thanks, got it, that makes sense!

without that trip spring and its pin on hand, I had no idea the trip pin moved in and of the trip hole in the locking bolt; I had assumed the pin stayed fixed in place...

now to call Numrich / Gun Parts Corp and see whether they happen to have the correct parts for a Crass, not the Lewis parts they sent me...

Best of luck!

If memory serves, then I seem to recall you are about an hour from Numrich/GPC... how often do you get there, and/or do you happen to have a good contact there?

I am, but only get out there when I fish the reservoir or creeks of Sullivan County. Being so close, their shipping is pretty fast and I haven't purchased any restricted parts from them.

We're getting a bit of snow at the moment - why they may not picking up the phone. Not sure of how much they're getting across the river, though.

And no, I have no contact there, just an account.

Well, I finally got around to completely re-assembling (with the parts on hand) my Ithaca Crass from the bag of parts I had received. This forum and thread was instrumental in helping me first figure out which parts I was missing so I could order what was available from Numrich/Gun Parts Corporation and then subsequently figure out the function of each part and how to properly put together this puzzle! I am still missing the trip spring and trip pin because nobody has those available, so I've done what I can to this point. I can open and close the barrels, and it properly cocks both internal hammers upon opening the breech and sets the safety on safe; then upon closing, it locks properly as intended. I can then slide the safety forward and dry fire both triggers with 12 gauge dummy shells/snap caps in each barrel.

So now the question is whether it would ever be safe to actually fire this 117 year old Ithaca Crass SxS 12 gauge shotgun? And if so, then can anyone suggest any weaker 12 gauge recipes which I can load myself?

I use the Falcon Ultra Lite in my PAC Fox:

http://www.rstshells.com/store/pg/24...hotshells.aspx

Also the Polywad Vintager:

http://polywad.com/vintager.html

And this may be of some help:

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=389200

many thanks!

I'll have the barrels inspected and gauged first