Yikes!

AAA is kinda fictitious as it’s only used at shoots with an exceedingly large number of AA shooters . And AAA to the best of my knowledge has always been 1 % point above AA so double AA would be 97.5 - 97.25 - 97 and 95.5 . Thirty years ago when I into skeet heavily the 12 was the same as now the 20 was 97-98 the 28 was 96.5 97.5 and the 410 was 94.5 95.5 with first numbers being minimum for AA and second number for AAA . I found AAA relatively easy at that time to attain a AAA average but I never could quite stay in 12 gauge AAA . But then again my 28 gauge average was usually above 98.25 most years with the 12 and 20 being slightly less but both still above 98 . FWIW the last years I shot the 20 in the 12 event and my average and number of 100 straights increased .

Man I if I keep hearing all this skeet stuff I’m going to end up sending a K-32 and a VH 12 to Kolar for full length fitted skeet tubes . :rotf::rotf::rotf:

Recoil....

It’s all good, and the 12 will almost always beat the smaller gauges by a little margin. Skeet averages across the board usually prove it. However, I don’t see it making any significant difference at typical upland shooting 30 yards and under.

I saw a good many years when Bender would go clean for the entire year with the 20 and or 28 . While I don’t disagree with you it’s hard to beat perfection . 1000x1000 in ANY gauge is pretty special in my opinion .

I did explain that he could shoot 2 3/4" cartridges out of his gun just fine and pointed him to the 1200 fps 1 ounce Herters loads on sale. But seriously, he just did not know.

Another point to consider is a small chip off a clay bird is a dead bird but in hunting live birds that will usually be a lost bird or a wounded one. You should always try and have enough pattern density to kill whatever bird you are after. To me at least you can't compare 12ga vs 410 average at skeet , you are shooting at a known target that is thrown at your call at a known speed and path and one that you have shot at many times. Real birds do none of that.

I just use a 2" 12 (5 1/2 lbs) in the early season and switch to a 2 1/2" 12 (6 lbs 5 oz) in the later season. I'm hunting pheasants (with a bonus quail now and then) over setters so the shots aren't long.

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Ken

I'm shooting 3` shells in my gun on opening day doves. The load is 11/16ths of an ounce of 7 1/2s

.410 Magnum ; --)

20 gauge Bernardelli for quail, 16 ga Poli for everything else upland, sxs of course. I also have a 16 gauge Belgian hammer gun that’s a blast on quail. Not easy but a lot of fun. In the 16 for quail, I use 2 1/2 RST #8, spreaders when they have them.