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Dean Romig 01-26-2020 07:28 AM

I don’t think we know WHO upgraded this SBT do we Bill?
I sure don’t. To me this gun doesn’t say “DelGrego.”

There’s another thread going on, “Open letter to...” that discusses the DelGrego and Runge families...



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Bill Murphy 01-26-2020 07:08 PM

Nope, don't know who upgraded this gun. Why do we assume it was not a B when built? Singles are not usually identified by grade in the stock books, at least not correctly noted by grade.

Dean Romig 01-26-2020 07:59 PM

All I know is what I read in the Serialization book beside the gun's serial number...
SC H 2 S 12 32

If it is not unethical to do so, maybe Chuck will chime in to either confirm or deny what the serialization book shows.



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Ralph Miller 01-26-2020 11:45 PM

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Trying to get up to speed on my SBT, it being my first. The S/N is 227591, as stamped in four places, and I also noticed that it did not match the B grade in the Parker gun I.D & Serialization (2002) book. I also just received my Parker Story book, but I have barely scratched the surface of all the detailed material, what a great book. So here are some more pics to show you what I am seeing. I really appreciate your help in identifying my SBT correctly.

Ralph

John Davis 01-27-2020 05:49 AM

Ralph, although your gun has been "customized", I don't believe it's been "upgraded". But a letter from the PGCA should be able to settle that question.

Dean Romig 01-27-2020 07:47 AM

Again, the Serialization book identified Parker No. 227591 as being a 16 gauge Trojan with 26” barrels. This misinformation once again supports the necessity of ordering a research letter for our Parkers rather than relying on the Serialization book.

My apologies to you Ralph, and all others who have read this thread. When I first saw that the serial number came up as a Trojan I jumped to the (incorrect) conclusion that the number I saw on the lug must be 227691 instead, because it made more sense being an upgraded SC but I was very wrong - apologies to all.

Dean



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Bill Murphy 01-27-2020 01:16 PM

Dean, I saw the SC mention in the Serialization Book, suspected that it was mismarked in the Book. I swear I have seen singles in the Serialization Book posted as S and "S" only. I couldn't find any of those today, but I know they are in there. This is difficult, but maybe we will get more information on the Book entries on single barrels. I don't think all singles are entered correctly by grade.

Chuck Bishop 01-27-2020 02:17 PM

The Serialization Book is wrong on a few S/N's on that page. 227588 is a VH, 227589 is a SC, 227590 is a SC, 227591 is a SB, and 227597 is a Trojan. The rest of that column in the Serialization Book is correct. You many want to write in the correct grade for those guns in your book.

John Davis 01-27-2020 08:25 PM

The Serialization Book is a good place to start but it ain't the gospel. I would always recommend a letter if there is any doubt or even if there isn't.

Ralph Miller 01-27-2020 11:24 PM

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Thanks guys for all the information on my SBT. Dean did you say that it has two separate Remington service codes. Were these on the barrel, can you describe what they look like. Do you think Remington could have completed the SBT, or performed the upgrade/customization on it. Another couple of pics from a different angle, notice the last three digits of the S/N in the channel below the water table.

Ralph


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